Plant ID forum: Vine in Spain

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Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
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JonnaSudenius
Jan 16, 2013 4:25 AM CST
Found this seedpods on a vine in Spain. Thumb of 2013-01-16/JonnaSudenius/c82899
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
Sedums Winter Sowing Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Region: Belgium Region: Europe
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Salvias Herbs Cut Flowers
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JonnaSudenius
Jan 16, 2013 4:26 AM CST
The leaves Thumb of 2013-01-16/JonnaSudenius/74b44c
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Jan 16, 2013 7:27 AM CST
Jonna, did you find it in the wild or was it a cultivated plant? Do you know if it's edible? Which part of Spain did you find it?
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
Sedums Winter Sowing Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Region: Belgium Region: Europe
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Salvias Herbs Cut Flowers
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JonnaSudenius
Jan 16, 2013 8:05 AM CST
I found the plant on a fench around an orange orchard. No garden in the environment, only more orange orchards. It was in a valley near Gandia (Valencia region) 15 kms from the coast.
I don't know if it's edible, I didn't try it. When I opened the seedpod there came a milky juice on the place where it was damaged. The plants that have milky juices that I know are very bitter or toxic.

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Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
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I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Salvias Herbs Cut Flowers
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JonnaSudenius
Jan 16, 2013 1:18 PM CST
Because the seeds and the way they come out of the seed pod look a lot like the ' Tweedia', I think it will be a plant of the ' Asclepiadaceae' . I searched the internet, but couldn't find a picture. I don't think it's a Milkweed, because those seeds are more or less flat.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Jan 16, 2013 1:52 PM CST
Aha! Araujia sericifera is getting close!

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Araujia+sericifera&um=1&ie=...

http://www.visoflora.com/photos-nature/photo-graines-araujia...

http://najpiekniejszekwiatyswiata.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/ara...

Araujia sericofera is probably incorrect spelling..

http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?query_src=photos...

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2646641

Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Jan 16, 2013 1:53 PM CST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araujia_sericifera
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
Sedums Winter Sowing Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Region: Belgium Region: Europe
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Salvias Herbs Cut Flowers
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JonnaSudenius
Jan 16, 2013 2:31 PM CST
Thank you Janet, I'm 100 % sure now that it is a Araujia species. As far as I could find, there are only 7 species in this genus. Hope to find out which one it is looking at the leaves. Will have no chance to find out how the flowers will look like, because I'm leaving Spain next week.

The Araujia sericifera is the one I think it will be, because I read it also grows in Spain. But if I want to offer the seeds, I must be sure. If I can't be sure, I will offer the seeds only as ' Araujia'

Anyway, thank you so much for your help.



Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jan 16, 2013 3:14 PM CST
I think it is Araujia sericifera, I translated the description! Citrus crops are mentioned where it's a nuisance.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11299883@N08/8257399845/

http://invasiber.org/fitxa_detalls.php?taxonomic=3&id_fitxa=...

Fickle Liana with white latex. Green stems, the young puberulos.Opposite leaves, with a 1-3 cm petiole; obovato-oblong limbo osubtriangular, truncated at the base and acute at apex, of verdeoscuro color by the beam and off-white and puberulo on the underside, of 5-10 (12) x 2-5 (6) cm. flowers pentamerous, white, fragrant, 2-3 x 1-2 cm dediametro. Result in follicle of 8-15 x 4-5 cm, green, pendulum, many longitudinal grooves. Black seeds from 2-2, 5 x 5-6 mm, fitted with a silky Pappus of 2.5 cm.Biology and habitat: reproduces by seed and is multiplicavegetativamente. The seeds are dispersed by the wind. Seed production is generally very abundant with an elevadaviabilidad.Native geographic distribution: originally from South America, specifically in the South of the Brazil and Argentina.Distribution and establishment of the Iberian peninsula: developing deexpansion in suburbs and orchards. She knows naturalised Jauregia, Almeria, Murcia, Majorca and throughout all the comarcaslitorales Catalan and Castellón.Mechanism of introduction: competes with other lianas autoctonastermofilas as Cynanchum acutum. It can interfere with the polinizacionde native plants for the capture in their floral structures delepidopteros.Ecological impact: cultivated as an ornamental, and formerly for collection of the fibers of the flowers from the seeds.Management: Has been used chemical control for severe infestations, mainly in citrus crops. Manual removal is expensive posiblepero and should be repeated for several years. It should be noted that lamanipulacion of the plant requires the use of protection front alabundante latex that smokes this plant.
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
Sedums Winter Sowing Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Region: Belgium Region: Europe
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Salvias Herbs Cut Flowers
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JonnaSudenius
Jan 17, 2013 3:15 AM CST
Thank you!
I probably did a good job to take the seedpods, there was only 1 plant, so it might not be able to spread through the orchard where I found it.
I also read that this plant is grown as an ornamental because of the nice odor. In colder climates it is grown in containers or outdoors, but it never sets seed there, so it won't get invasive in areas where it freezes.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Jan 17, 2013 6:19 AM CST
I don't think it's very hardy, the common names Cruel Vine and Moth Vine are because it's pollinated by a moth in it's native habitat, the moth gets trapped when feeding and can be killed. The plant is capable of self fertilisation, that's probably why it only had one seed pod.

http://www.eppo.int/INVASIVE_PLANTS/observation_list/Araujia...

http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Araujia+serici...

http://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/03030800-0b07-4...
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
Sedums Winter Sowing Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Region: Belgium Region: Europe
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Salvias Herbs Cut Flowers
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JonnaSudenius
Jan 18, 2013 1:15 PM CST
Thank you again for te information.
The vine seems to be hardy to zone 8, but It will never set seed there, so no problems with being invasive. In colder zones people like to grow this plant as a container plant and bring it indoors during winter.

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