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Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jan 21, 2013 11:41 PM CST
I have two flower/seedlings coming out of the same pot, two different palms. Thought they were small areca palm or kentia palm. Maybe its reproductive habits will clue someone in on which type it is?.

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And from the other palm in the same pot-old growth in the foreground, new flower/seed growth in the background
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jan 22, 2013 7:37 AM CST
Cheryl: Can you give a bit more information about the palm? Did you purchase it as a houseplant or could seeds have been dispersed by a squirrel from a neighborhood tree? The squirrels here are always burying seeds from the Pindo Palms into my potted houseplants that are out on the back deck! I'm not good at identifying plants but someone might recognize your palm if you could post more pictures; one of the leaves and one of the trunk/base.

The fruit reminds me of the Lady Palm, Rhapis excelsa: http://itp.lucidcentral.org/id/palms/palm-id/Rhapis_excelsa.... but unripe palm fruit can look alike too. Smiling
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Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Jan 22, 2013 8:40 AM CST
Thank you Lin, you just ID'd one of mine. We call it Lady Finger Palm. While looking at Rhapis_excelsa I ID'd another one, Saw Palmetto "Serenoa repens". Now one left,looks like Rhapis excelsa but the base of the trunk is different. Maybe some day.
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jan 22, 2013 9:49 AM CST
KAMasud said:Thank you Lin, you just ID'd one of mine. We call it Lady Finger Palm. While looking at Rhapis_excelsa I ID'd another one, Saw Palmetto "Serenoa repens". Now one left,looks like Rhapis excelsa but the base of the trunk is different. Maybe some day.
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Arif.


You are very welcome! I'm only good at guessing and most of the time I'm wrong. Green Grin! Another guess; Could your other be Rhapsis humilis? http://www.floridata.com/ref/r/rhap_hum.cfm

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Name: Arif Masud
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KAMasud
Jan 22, 2013 9:56 AM CST
Wow, you are good. Yes it is. Thank you Group hug
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jan 22, 2013 11:04 AM CST
You are welcome ... it was just another wild guess! Group hug
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jan 22, 2013 11:23 AM CST
The best resource for palms is this site. You will find just about all the palm species in the world.
Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jan 22, 2013 11:27 AM CST
I bought two of these as houseplants and planted them in one pot side by side about 5 years ago, maybe? They were small, about 12" at the time. They have put out new shoots and I have been able to transplant one or two to make other small table plants. Here is a (bad) shot of it now. Sorry, it needs a winter clean up badly now that it is out of the garage and the sun (yay!) is reflecting around it. It sits outside all the time in part shade. Thanks. Just found it odd that the two would have different flowers. They are different cultivars, aren't they? So many palms! So little time!

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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jan 22, 2013 12:17 PM CST
The "Cat" Palm is a popular house plant: Cat Palm (Chamaedorea cataractarum)

and so is the Areca Palm: http://www.exoticangel.com/plant-library/species/palm/item/4...

I used to see them at Wal-Mart and Home Depot Garden Centers years ago, usually as tiny little plants but they grow to large sizes, especially the Areca!
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purpleinopp
Jan 22, 2013 1:12 PM CST
Palms are often (usually, always?) dioecious, so you may be seeing male/female flowers on the different individual plants.
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Name: Arif Masud
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KAMasud
Jan 22, 2013 1:55 PM CST
I tip my hat to you. My computer power supply burnt out Janet, sitting on a borrowed one. Itsy bitsy one 9 inches by 4 inches made for small fingers and sharp eyes, my 8yr old daughters. Very frustrating.
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Name: Cheryl
Kingwood, Texas (Zone 9a)
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jan 22, 2013 9:40 PM CST
purpleinopp said:Palms are often (usually, always?) dioecious, so you may be seeing male/female flowers on the different individual plants.


Whoa! That expalins it!! Obviously I didn't know that. One girl and three boy areca palms! Thanks!

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Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jan 23, 2013 9:44 PM CST
Do you think mine could be a Bamboo Palm? Look at the flowers on this one about half way down the page. It shows both male and female flowers AND colors!

[url]http://www.junglemusic.net/Chamaedorea/Chamaedorea_Palm/chamaedorea_palm.html[/url]
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Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Jan 24, 2013 4:48 AM CST
Cheryl could you give us a clean shot of the trunk and another of the leaves from some distance so that the complete leaf structure can be seen, please. Put some light on it before photograph.
I tip my hat to you. You have ID'd one palm of mine. Thank you.
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Arif.
http://www.junglemusic.net/Chamaedorea/Chamaedorea_Palm/cham...
Name: Cheryl
Kingwood, Texas (Zone 9a)
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jan 24, 2013 1:18 PM CST
Here you go Arif. Glad we can help each other. There are 1000's of palms out there! (what BB code did you use to get the link to be clickable??)

Leaves:
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Oldest (tallest) male stem
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Younger (shortest) male plant stem
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Female stem with sucker:
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Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Jan 24, 2013 1:58 PM CST
I tip my hat to you. Nothing, just copied and pasted the URL rest was taken care of by itself.
Lin has answered this did she not? This trunk does not have hair on it, interesting. Mine has the coir type mat but yours does remind me of some thing. Let me check in the day time.
Janet, how about you having a go?
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Arif.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Jan 24, 2013 2:44 PM CST
Chamaedorea elegans more than likely, it's very widely sold as the Parlour palm. It also flowers as a young plant.

http://www.pacsoa.org.au/palms/Chamaedorea/elegans.html

http://www.plantapalm.com/vpe/photos/Species/chamaedorea_ele...

http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/CHAMAEDOREA_ELEGANS.htm

http://www.photomazza.com/?Chamaedorea-elegans

Notice the roots trying to grow from the stem ...

Stems of older, decumbent individuals may form adventitious roots

May be confused with
Other Chamaedorea species, but C. elegans often has adventitious roots at nodes all along the stem.


http://itp.lucidcentral.org/id/palms/palm-id/Chamaedorea_ele...
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Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Jan 24, 2013 8:28 PM CST
I tip my hat to you. Janet you are the bestest Group hug
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Arif.
Name: Cheryl
Kingwood, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Composter Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Amaryllis
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jan 24, 2013 9:27 PM CST
Thank you Janet! You really are a Super Sleuth! I think that is IT! Hurray!
Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love Truly, Laugh
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Charter ATP Member Organic Gardener Garden Photography Bee Lover Dragonflies Cat Lover
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JRsbugs
Jan 25, 2013 5:12 AM CST
I tip my hat to you. nodding

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