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jmorth
Mar 2, 2013 4:37 AM CST
Disappearing Bumble Bees article
http://www.wunderground.com/news/bumblebees-disappearing-mid...
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Name: Sheryl
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sheryl
Mar 2, 2013 5:14 PM CST
Hunh.... and the article believes that it's a combo of disease and parasites. Interesting. I don't think pesticides should be ruled out as a culprit - but then again, I have no proof of that.
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Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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LindaTX8
Mar 3, 2013 12:06 AM CST
Sheryl, this article is sure agreeing with you!
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130213-honey...
If I were them, I'd check out the effect of the GMO and Roundup-ready crops also. I'm pretty sure those are contributing to the decline of Monarchs, anyway.
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Name: Sheryl
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sheryl
Mar 3, 2013 11:50 AM CST
Hey, at least someone agrees, lol.

I'm trying my darndest to not use pest/herbicides. I'm ordering one of those "weed burners", probably from Gardener's Supply. The only last sticking point is Bermuda grass. Hopefully it will be in tiny, limited spots. Hate that stuff.
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Science is not the answer, it is the question.


Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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LindaTX8
Mar 3, 2013 2:40 PM CST
I also hate KR Bluestem grass! It's nonnative and extremely invasive. I've given up on ridding my place of it, but hope to get it at least out of my yard!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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sheryl
Mar 3, 2013 2:57 PM CST
Best of luck ... have you tried solarization?
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Name: Linda
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LindaTX8
Mar 3, 2013 4:01 PM CST
I have over 2 acres, with trees and shrubs, etc. I don't think solarization would kill the very deep roots of this grass anyway. I would hate to use herbicides...but those might work if used repeatedly. The numerous seeds could still germinate later...a lot of work involved. I eliminated almost all of that grass in the yard, then my health declined and I haven't been able to keep up with it much.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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sheryl
Mar 3, 2013 5:41 PM CST
Depends, kinda - if you have a whopping sunny summer, it might work at least on the parts you've treated. I have used it successfully on Bermuda, and left on long enough it would probably also kill many of the seeds in the top layer of your soil.

Regardless, good luck with it!
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jmorth
Mar 10, 2013 1:19 AM CST
Another interesting article, this one's on Buzzed Up Bees
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/08/science/plants-use-caffein...
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Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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LindaTX8
Mar 10, 2013 1:00 PM CST
Well, that was fascinating! I didn't even know caffeine could be in any flower nectar!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
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Marilyn
Mar 11, 2013 12:38 AM CST
LindaTX8 said:Well, that was fascinating! I didn't even know caffeine could be in any flower nectar!


I agree nodding Thumbs up

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Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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LindaTX8
Mar 11, 2013 9:59 AM CST
I found another article that said that besides coffee plants, various citrus plants have caffeine in their nectar. So I guess, if you have citrus flowers, bees will stop by and get their caffeine...makes me wish I had some citrus! If I could find a citrus tree I could put in the ground that would provide good enough citrus fruit and still tolerate the cold out here, I'd do it. Lately, I heard about one, "Orange Frost", which is very cold hardy, but it's not widely available yet.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Southwest Gardening Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
Butterflies Birds Cottage Gardener Herbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises
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sheryl
Mar 13, 2013 10:14 PM CST
Ok, no jokes about bees getting their caffeine "buzz" .... nodding
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
Laughter is the best medicine!
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Marilyn
Mar 13, 2013 10:30 PM CST
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Welcome to the Agastache and Salvias Forum!

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