Roses forum: What Can this Be?

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Name: melva wheeler
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melva
Apr 8, 2010 9:28 PM CST
A friend has this rose...it has a lot of thorns, red thorns, flowers have a good scent...small 2.5-3 inches and the foliage stays pretty clean...it has been in a half barrel and seems happy and it does repeat.

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Apr 8, 2010 9:28 PM CST
picture #2

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Apr 8, 2010 9:29 PM CST
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This is in Texas

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Skiekitty
Apr 9, 2010 9:37 AM CST
It's a pretty rose?

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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Apr 10, 2010 4:36 PM CST

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Reminds me of an Austin.
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Name: melva wheeler
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melva
Apr 10, 2010 6:01 PM CST
Yes it does but the blooms are small...think it might be a Austin parent...
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Apr 10, 2010 6:58 PM CST

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If it repeats and it has that habit, it might be a tea, but I don't know enough about teas to even hazard a guess.
Name: melva wheeler
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melva
Apr 10, 2010 7:40 PM CST
She says it blooms in the spring and has an occasional bloom in the fall.
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Steve812
Apr 20, 2010 9:11 PM CST
The cupped form makes it look like it descended from gallicas & centifolias. The yellowish tint is definitely suggestive of something more modern - tea roses or post-pernetiana hybrid teas. It all makes me think it is most likely a DA rose. Comparing it to a photo of Claire Rose in DA's "Old Roses and English Roses" suggests that might be a reasonable guess. Emily, Evelyn, Cressida, or St Cecilia, and Sharifa Asma might be possibilities, too.

If it really doesn't have a yellowish tint, Heritage is a possibility. And I guess there is some possibility it is an old garden rose. I believe elsewhere someone suggested Souvenir de la Malmaison. Repeat flowering rules out anything older than that.
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zuzu
Apr 20, 2010 9:16 PM CST

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Souvenir de la Malmaison repeats like crazy and it's a good guess. But there are so many bourbons, teas, and chinas that look like that and rebloom constantly that I wouldn't hazard a guess of my own. I don't have that much experience with OGR's.
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melva
Apr 20, 2010 11:27 PM CST
I first thought it might be Souv. de la Malmaison...but I think we have decided it is Duchesse de Montebello
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zuzu
Apr 21, 2010 12:26 AM CST

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Duchesse de Montebello is a once-bloomer.
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melva
Apr 21, 2010 11:06 AM CST
She says it blooms in the spring, with an occasional bloom in the fall.

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