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Apr 17, 2013 9:11 PM CST
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Name: Julia
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Thanks Rita! Nothing like yours but getting lots of ideas from your pictures. Green Grin! Green Grin!
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Apr 17, 2013 9:34 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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For years and years I just went to the local garden centers each fall and bought whatever they had in larger bags of daffs. Now I order on line and get all sorts of really pretty varieties.
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Apr 17, 2013 9:41 PM CST
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Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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Yes, I do that too. Also hit Costco but this year I'm hitting Brent and Becky for some of those special ones.
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Apr 17, 2013 9:49 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Nothing wrong with getting those local daffodils. But it's nice to add those special ones you only see on line. I buy from Brent & Beckies ever year. Daffodils and tulips. If your ordering from B&B take a look at daff Maria. I got mine there and it is my favorite daff.
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Apr 17, 2013 9:50 PM CST
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Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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I'll go look. Thanks
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Apr 18, 2013 3:28 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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springcolor said:These were hanging in the dirt so I brought them in side.Thumb of 2013-04-18/springcolor/fd9a9d
Don't know the name, just a package I picked up at Ace hardware.

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Those are beautiful, they look like some I was looking at on a website, but I did not get because they were expensive. I saw some beautiful daffs at Brent and Becky's website, I do not live very far from there. Whistling
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Apr 18, 2013 5:48 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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I planted bulbs for the first time in Fall of 2010. I had lots of blooms in the Spring of 2011: Daffodils, Giant Hyacinths, Grape Hyacinths and Crocuses.

T he Grape Hyacinths and Crocuses have come back each Spring (2012 and 2013). However, far fewer daffoldils have come up each year, and this ear the Giant Hyacinths were smaller and fewer. The pink Giant Hyacinths disappeared, and the white and blue seem to be losing their vigor.

Does this always happen with bulbs? Should I be re-planting bulbs every year or two?

Might I need better drainage? Fertilization?

We have soggy weather in Fall, Winter and Spring, and most of my soil is partly-amended clay. (My part of the Pacific NorthWet has very mild Zone 8 winters, and cool summers.) Sunset Zone 5: Marine influence along the Northwest coast, Puget Sound, and South Vancouver Island

However, the Daffodils and Gin at Hyacinths were even quicker to die off in a small bed that is sheltered from the rain, that I put a lot of grit, bark, compost and manure onto three years ago. The level subsided as the com post was digested, and that bed often gets pretty dry.

I had been told that tulips "can't take it" where I live, I think because of the long, cold, wet late winter and spring. But a few red tulips have been coming back in the same spot for the 5 years I've lived here!
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Apr 18, 2013 6:59 PM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
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Corey, here's my two cents: your grape hyacinth and crocus will multiple each year. When your daffs start showing less blooms, you should make a note to divide them up come fall (too many babies, too crowded). Giant hyacinth are short-lived and don't multiple, enjoy them while you have them. I think the bigger problem with tulips is underground varmits who eat the bulbs or deer who eat them like lollipops, and some folks go to all sorts of extreme measures to protect them from both under/above ground pests. I just take a drive up to the Skagit Flats to enjoy the massive tulip fields in bloom and don't mess with them in my beds. But that's just me.
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Apr 18, 2013 7:13 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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Rick, just like the tulips you will have plants fizzle out because of the lack of a good cold spell. In zone 7-10 bulbs need a prechill. We sometimes put things in the refrigerator. I am not in the mood to dig stuff up every year, actually I am lazy. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 19, 2013 11:35 AM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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That's really helpful! We do have SOME cold winters, but not very often.

I often wondered why some plants have a hardiness Zone like "Zones 4 to 8". They were serious: that plant needs a cold winter.

>> Giant hyacinth are short-lived and don't multiply, enjoy them while you have them.

Good to know. Within a year or two, I might as well dig up that bed and amend the soil again, then plant new bulbs. I like the Giants enough to keep re-planting bulbs - it looks like every 2nd or third year so I always have some big blooms.

Do you think there are any varieties that are vigorous longer in our climate, or is it just "Giant hyacinth are short-lived", end of story?

Are there any Hyacinths in-between "Giant" and "grape"? I love the fragrance of the giants.
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Apr 19, 2013 7:24 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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No, not just Hyacinith, but tulips and certain daffodils, even some Hostas. They all need a certain amount of cold weather. I am checking into some species tulips but looks like they might need to be prechilled also. I am not purchasing anymore hostas unless they have a low chill requirement. The biggest shock for me was the daylilies. The dormant ones need a cold spell also.

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Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Apr 19, 2013 7:50 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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It looks like the kind of Hyacinth I want is called
Dutch Hyacinth
Hyacinthus orientalis

Maybe, from reading, these two have a somewhat warmer "max hardiness zone" than most:

Hyacinthus orientalis 'Achilleus'
Hyacinthus orientalis 'Snow Pearl'
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Apr 19, 2013 7:50 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Susan, do you get below freezing for any lengh of time there?
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Apr 20, 2013 3:29 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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It got down in the 20's twice but not for long just a day or two, same as last year. I am very suprised my Hostas are coming up. I am going to pot them all this year because it will maximize the cold air on the roots. Plus I have my list of the 'low chill requirement' plants like 'Sea Thunder' my first Hosta.


Ooops, is this the Daffodil thread? *Blush*
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Apr 20, 2013 9:02 AM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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I know there are daffodil mixes for the south. Those have low chill requirements.
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Apr 20, 2013 10:50 AM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Daffs in the front yard.
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Apr 20, 2013 4:22 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
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Newyorkrita said:I know there are daffodil mixes for the south. Those have low chill requirements.


I bought some King Alfred when I first moved here and they did seem to be multiplying till I started planting other stuff in the area, disturbing the bulbs and forgetting to replant. Rolling my eyes.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Apr 20, 2013 4:43 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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That's what happens when you start to move stuff around and redo gardens. Most of my crocus dissapeared in my garden redos and I had to buy new ones.
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Apr 20, 2013 6:18 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
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Yes, I think I will wait till I am done to see if I have room for a raised bed. I printed some stuff from B&B then uploaded and edit so I could have directions for a raised bed with no digging!!

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Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Apr 20, 2013 6:21 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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Looks like a very creative idea.

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