Agastache and Salvias forum: Big Red Sage (Salvia penstemonoides)

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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Mar 24, 2013 12:21 AM CST

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Gorgeous Salvia! One of my favorites!

Too bad it's very hard to find. I got mine a few years ago at High Country Gardens. Hope they offer it again.

Here's some pics I took of it.

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Name: Joseph
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Gerris2
Mar 25, 2013 7:26 AM CST
You can obtain seeds fairly readily and grow it that way, if you're a seed to flower grower.
Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Mar 25, 2013 9:28 PM CST

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Do you grow it also Joseph? Is that where you get your seeds?
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Name: Joseph
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Gerris2
Mar 26, 2013 8:19 AM CST
I've gotten seeds from this company, Native American Seed: http://www.seedsource.com/catalog/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=3162

Name: Linda
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LindaTX8
Mar 26, 2013 10:02 AM CST
I believe I've seen that salvia for sale locally in San Antonio at a nursery in the past. I should check and see if they still have it. Mine disappeared during the worst year of the drought and heat when I developed health problems and failed to water the yard enough. Interesting history on that species. It's endemic to Texas and many thought it might be extinct in the wild in the 1980's, when Marshall Enquist found some growing wild during the time he was working on his book Wildflowers of the Texas Hill Country. Soon after that other isolated stands were found and a Hill Country nursery started propagating it for sale. From those, the native plant people started growing them and passed along the seeds to others. I wish I'd been able to meet Marshall Enquist, but he went on to become a lawyer after that book was done. Afterward, he seemed to lose interest in the wild plants he spent so much time documenting and photographing during his student days. His paperback book is still sold (although sometimes out of print), but sadly it's never been updated for changes in botanical names and has never been available in hardcover. For native plant people of the Hill Country, it's the book you absolutely have to have, but it falls apart easily.
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Name: Joseph
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Gerris2
Mar 26, 2013 11:40 AM CST
I'll have to look for the book in the library system. Undoubtedly it will have to be shipped in to Delaware via interlibrary loan. Thanks for the tip, Linda!
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LindaTX8
Mar 26, 2013 12:55 PM CST
Do you like Texas Hill Country plants, Joseph? Strangely enough, Enquist didn't include a picture of that particular salvia in his book, even though he did find it while he was photographing plants for that book. Right now, I'm waiting for my Cedar Sage (Salvia Roemeriana) to bloom...I can barely see a bit of red color showing. For a long time I thought they would only grow in the yard where I could water them. Then just for the heck of it I threw seed in an area by the front driveway. They've naturalized out there and survived the droughts without watering. Cedar Sage:
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
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Name: Joseph
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Gerris2
Mar 26, 2013 2:43 PM CST
I love the Texas native plants. Not many grow well in Delaware but I keep trying.
Name: Duane
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duane456
Mar 26, 2013 9:10 PM CST
Marilyn, I was able to grow this one from seeds- would you like some?
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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Mar 27, 2013 12:01 AM CST

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LindaTX8 said:Do you like Texas Hill Country plants, Joseph? Strangely enough, Enquist didn't include a picture of that particular salvia in his book, even though he did find it while he was photographing plants for that book. Right now, I'm waiting for my Cedar Sage (Salvia Roemeriana) to bloom...I can barely see a bit of red color showing. For a long time I thought they would only grow in the yard where I could water them. Then just for the heck of it I threw seed in an area by the front driveway. They've naturalized out there and survived the droughts without watering. Cedar Sage:


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Great pic Linda!

Would you please add your pic to the database ( if you haven't already )?

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Mar 27, 2013 12:03 AM CST

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YES! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!

I'll happily pay you for the seeds and postage! Thumbs up

Thank you Duane! I tip my hat to you.

Wonderful pics!

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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Mar 27, 2013 12:06 AM CST

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Thanks Joseph for the link. What other seeds have you gotten from them?

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Name: Joseph
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Gerris2
Mar 27, 2013 8:21 AM CST
Well, I do not remember. I may have gotten other salvias, most likely so.
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Marilyn
Mar 28, 2013 9:26 PM CST

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Thanks! I tip my hat to you. Thumbs up
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