Plant ID forum: Which old rose is this?

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Name: Christine Reid
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Apr 10, 2013 6:54 PM CST
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Can anyone help me identify this old rose? It's fragrant, vigorous and has thorns.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Apr 11, 2013 9:33 PM CST

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Christine, that may be difficult to positively ID because there are so many older fragrant roses. I'll post in the rose forum and see if any others can chime in.
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Name: Christine Reid
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Apr 11, 2013 10:18 PM CST
Thanks!
Name: Christine Reid
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Apr 12, 2013 10:15 PM CST
A friend thinks this is Marchessa Bocella. I'm not sure since the rose seems to have long 'arms' and so might be a climber, which I don't think applies to Marchessa.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Apr 12, 2013 10:34 PM CST

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No I don't think it's Marchesa Boccella either, which is a very full formed rose with a lot more petals than your rose.
http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.4095.4&tab=36 you can click on the Photos tab and see all the images.
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Apr 13, 2013 4:58 AM CST
The foliage is glossy which should help, according to Heirloomroses Felicia has " glossy, deep green foliage" and it's an old rose. It is an old favourite.

http://www.heirloomroses.com/roses/shrub-roses/felicia.html

http://www.lukjanov.se/enlukrose.htm

http://www.roseraie-fabien-ducher.com/en/roses/Felicia.htm
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Apr 13, 2013 8:10 AM CST

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That is a good possibility, and it has the possible height in the description. Check out the additional photos too.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.1770&tab=1
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Apr 14, 2013 10:37 AM CST

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Is this the same rose that you identified as Odee Pink in your photo caption?



Is that a guess or was it labeled? We have an entry for Odee Pink, so the photo didn't have to go on the parent Rosa page.

Rose (Rosa 'Odee Pink')
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Apr 14, 2013 10:48 AM CST
That does look correct Zuzu!

http://www.countrysideroses.com/csr/RosePages/OdeePink.html
Name: Zuzu
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Apr 14, 2013 11:20 AM CST

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I'll move the one on the Rosa parent page to the Odee Pink entry, and Christine can add her other photos to that entry if they're all of the same rose.
Name: Christine Reid
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Apr 15, 2013 7:55 AM CST
The rose I'm wondering about (that my friend thinks is Marchessa Bocella) is different from the photo I posted of Odee Pink.
Name: Christine Reid
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Apr 15, 2013 7:57 AM CST
When I look at photos of Felicia, my mystery rose doesn't look like that. Plus, it doesn't have an intense fragrance, which Felicia is supposed to have. I'll keep watching the blooms and check back! Thanks for the great input.

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