Plumeria forum: Tall Plumeria not blooming

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Name: Terri
virginia (Zone 7a)
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dragonfly53
Apr 28, 2013 5:59 PM CST
I have 5 Plumerias that I purchased as noids about 6 years ago. They're all doing well but have never bloomed. They are pretty much all just 3-4 ft tall tall sticks with lots of tip leaves but leaves no side branches. I read somewhere that in order to bloom there have to be branches and I do have one that developed branches last year after the tip broke off when a strong wind blew it off a table.

I have 2 questions that I would be thrilled for someone more experienced to answer,

1. Is it true that they won't bloom if there are no branches?
2. Should I cut the tips off them to make them branch?

Thye get full sun and fertilizer during the summer months, are potted in well draining mix and get watered at least twice a week once the weather goes over 80 degrees, less if it's cooler. I'm in zone 7a and they get overwintered inside at around 65 degrees. I have also tried giving them drenches once a month of an epsom salts mixture. Help, please?
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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Apr 28, 2013 6:25 PM CST

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You probably need more and longer sunshine hours. Cutting off the tip will NOT ensure you will have blooms; on the contrary, that could delay blooming for a year.
You're working against the odds since these are tropical trees.
Having said that, many people grow plumeria successfully in non-tropical climates but you need to help them along a bit. I am sure you will get some advice from northern growers.
Good luck!
Name: Online public--Cyra
Central CA (Zone 9a)
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cyra
Apr 28, 2013 10:21 PM CST
What type of ferilizer are you using? What's the ratio? Too much nitrogen will give you lush growth at the expense of the plant's blooms......
Name: Terri
virginia (Zone 7a)
Beekeeper Region: Virginia Dragonflies
dragonfly53
Apr 29, 2013 7:36 AM CST
@ Cyra I was using Superbloom, 12-55-6, 2 tsp to a gallon of water per the Mfr's instructions. I do have an all phosphate fertilizer, should I use that exclusively?
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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Apr 29, 2013 9:23 AM CST

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At this stage of the game I would only use a balanced fertilizer, such as Osmocote or Dynamite (13-13-13)

Pharaoh4
Apr 29, 2013 11:26 AM CST
Are they seedlings or rooted cuttings??? What size pots are they in??? As Hetty stated, cutting the tips will delay flowering even further. Plumeria naturally branch AFTER they flower.
Name: Peg
Va.Beach (Zone 8a)
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pcput
Apr 29, 2013 11:33 AM CST
dragonfly53 , being in 8a (Va.Beach) myself I know it is more challenging to grow plumerias here. You are mostly going to get branching from blooms or damage/removal of the tips. Even then it doesn't guarantee branching. Here's a pic of one that has bloomed 3 times without a branch. Luckily it is not a tall grower.

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Here's a tall NOID that bloomed in Dec. and I'm hoping it will hold the buds until I get it out in the sun and bloom more. It has 3 new tips but is on it's way to being a tallllllll tree. I may have to cut the top off and root it down the road.


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Here's my very thin/tall Pudica. I've been threatening to cut it if it doesn't bloom and I'm almost to that point. I'll root the top and if there is a bloom in there, it might bloom while rooting. The center cuts(stem) should send out new tips too and also what will be the trunk which will already have roots.
I'm just not sure how to go about rooting such a thin cutting. If it sits for a week or two to callus I'm afraid it will dehydrate.


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Plumerias didn't read the books and they do as they want. Some just grow tall and some don't. Like Hetty said, give them balanced formula and lots of sun and they will reward you with the blooms. Plumerias are great for teaching patience and hopefully the blooms will come sooner than later. Peg
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Apr 29, 2013 11:56 AM CST

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Just a suggestion for your tall plumeria: you could 'downgraft' - essentially taking a piece out of the middle and grafting the top back on to the bottom. You'll get a shorter plant and won't lose the tip.
Name: Terri
virginia (Zone 7a)
Beekeeper Region: Virginia Dragonflies
dragonfly53
Apr 29, 2013 12:09 PM CST
Thank you all for your suggestions! I have a friend in my zone who I have lost touch with. She had over 50 Plumies that she overwintered in her basement every year and they had spectacular blooms! Wish I had been able to ask her but the information you have given is great and I will get out and find a better balanced fertilizer. I don't think I will cut the taller ones back yet. I'm having a sun room built right now that will get the east and southern light so hopefully it will make my Plumies happy enough to bloom. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed it gets done on schedule - there will be an outside deck attached too and my Plumies will spend the summer there.
Life is a rush into the unknown. You can duck down and hope nothing hits you, or you can stand tall, show it your teeth and say "Dish it up, Baby, and don't skimp on the jalapeños."
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Apr 29, 2013 12:20 PM CST

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Name: Peg
Va.Beach (Zone 8a)
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pcput
Apr 29, 2013 12:53 PM CST
Hurray!
Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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GigiPlumeria
May 1, 2013 8:12 PM CST
I agree with everyone, don't cut the tip just yet. I have 2 King Kalakuas that were 3 feet tall / 3 years old from cuttings before it bloomed. I bought 3 No IDs ( peachy-pink and hot pink colors), which bloomed only when they were 3 feet tall. I placed them in full sun (8 hours+ in summer). It works great for me that they are tall because I plan to place them behind my medium tall plumerias and miniature and dwarf Plumerias. I mix superthrive with my blooming fertilizer when I feed them, not sure if it helped but I was very happy with the result.

I bought a seedling from a nursery that is almost 3 feet tall (no branches), I am being patient because they may not bloom for a few years. This might be a candidate for a downgraft if it will not bloom this year.
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Name: tom beard
san diego (Zone 10a)
Plumerias
teb47us
Jul 14, 2014 6:57 PM CST
I have a 4yo in-ground plumeria, which is getting pretty big now. but we are not getting any flowers.
Well this year so far I saw one flower..sorry. anyway I was wondering what is going wrong with this
thing. we have two others planted in-ground in the backyard and they bloom very nicely.
any suggestions would be appreciated.
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Database Moderator
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Dutchlady1
Jul 14, 2014 6:59 PM CST

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Welcome! - it would help to know a little more about the plant. Maybe you can post a picture? Also, where are you located?

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