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Name: Mima
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sfrangu
May 10, 2013 11:09 PM CST
Can anyone tell me where green garlic can be found? I've been looking for it everywhere and couldn't find anywhere.

Thank you in advance.
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May 11, 2013 6:06 AM CST
If you mean green garlic like green onions, just grow them yourself. Get some garlic cloves from the grocery store, break them apart without removing the skins, and plant them. I do it all the time.
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Name: Mima
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sfrangu
May 11, 2013 11:09 AM CST
Now that would be a good idea. it's just I had no clue how to do it. Any specific type of garlic cloves? Not too dry I suppose.

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abhege
May 11, 2013 2:46 PM CST
Farmers market. Some vendors here sell it. And the scapes
Name: Mima
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sfrangu
May 11, 2013 6:55 PM CST
I couldn't find it here in any farmer's market or whole food store or other type of store. I did not try the actual farms though.
Thanks for the ideas. Smiling
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May 12, 2013 7:11 AM CST
To grow green garlic you can either buy garlic for planting or just go to a Whole Food store & get some nice looking, relatively fresh looking garlic bulbs. Separate them into cloves, and plant them, root end down, about 2" deep, in either the ground or in a pot. Since you're growing them for greens, any time of year would work. There are some good videos on youtube about planting garlic in pots.
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MaryE
May 21, 2013 4:38 PM CST
An alternative might be to grow a pot of garlic chives. Onion chives have round stem-leaves, garlic chives have flat ones. Otherwise they look the same. I got some at a nursery.
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abhege
May 21, 2013 5:59 PM CST
That's a great idea!
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drdawg
May 25, 2013 8:34 AM CST
I also grow the two kinds of chives. One I simply call "narrow-leaf" and the other one "broad-leaf". I never knew the term for the flat-leaf ones was "garlic" chive. I sell both of them locally. We use the narrow-leaf ones on baked potatoes and the wide-leaf ones for soups and salads. I also just dug up about 50 lb. of gourmet garlic and it is all hanging in a greenhouse to "cure" for a couple of weeks. Ken
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Name: Mima
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sfrangu
May 25, 2013 9:32 AM CST
The flat leaves ones develop later in the garlic we know, if still in the ground. Maybe the term is not right, but I wanted to ask about the one that comes from garlic, not the onion ones. Smiling
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drdawg
May 25, 2013 10:06 AM CST
Mima, I'm no expert here, I only grow garlic and sell what I can't eat or plant, but I wonder if what you are looking for is the stalk that forms from the garlic bulb called a scape. When the scape is cut off when still young and tender, it is eaten in salads, used in soups, and is great when added to stir-fry. I am sure there are many more ways to enjoy them. These scapes will be garlicky but not nearly as intense as the bulb itself. When these scapes get older, they will be too tough to use but the head of the scape will be loaded with tiny garlic "bulb" that can be planted and will grow more scapes.

I have a bunch of scapes on the garlic I recently dug, but they are way to old and tough for anything but planting. Here's a picture of scapes. Ken

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abhege
May 25, 2013 4:43 PM CST
Ken, I believe it is the scapes she is asking for. At least that is what a vendor is selling at our market for green garlic. That's terrific you have harvested your garlic! Ours hasn't even formed scapes yet.

I had a customer today ask for ramps and I sent to the vendor who sells green garlic but he said no one sells ramps around here and he was out of green garlic. He stopped back at my booth and I ended up selling him garlic chives!
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sfrangu
May 25, 2013 6:24 PM CST
Nope, it's really the garlic while it's still young, immature and green. It is very spicy and the taste is unique.
Here are photos with it:

http://www.google.com/search?q=green+garlic&tbm=isch&tbo=u&s...

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drdawg
May 25, 2013 8:05 PM CST
I don't know about all this. I still have a feeling that true "green garlic" was grown from the scapes and not from cloves. But since I have never grown from scapes and never have "harvested" my garlic in the winter, before it ever truly develops, I really don't have an answer. Personally I cannot imagine taking my garlic from the ground before it forms full bulbs. That kind of seems like I would have wasted my money, time, and effort, since the cloves I planted are not inexpensive. Now growing from the scapes (and these would have to be hardneck, since the other varieties I have did not form scapes) would make a whole lot better sense. The scapes I have are basically FREE!

Now y'all have created another experiment for me. I just have to plant the scapes , and will do so all summer long, and see what develops.
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Name: Mima
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sfrangu
May 25, 2013 9:51 PM CST
To be honest, I've never gave a thought to what they're grown from. I just know how it looks and tastes LOL. And I love it. And the rest of my family too.

Here's pics with it if the link above doesn't work.:

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And here it says what green garlic is: immature garlic harvested before it matures: http://www.organicauthority.com/vegetables/green-garlic.html

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-green-garlic.htm


http://www.saveur.com/article/Ingredients/Green-Garlic




And here about garlic scapes:

http://gardening.about.com/od/herbsatoz/a/What-Are-Garlic-Sc...

"Garlic scapes are the "flower stalks" of hardneck garlic plants, although they do not produce flowers. These stalks start to appear a month or so after the first leaves. They are usually cut off of the plant, since leaving them on only diverts the plants strength away from forming a plump bulb. If left on, they eventually form small bulbils that can be planted to grow more garlic, but it takes 2–3 years for them to form large bulbs. Many gardeners simply toss their scapes in the compost, but garlic scapes are both edible and delicious, as are the bulbils.

Along the same lines, young garlic plants that are pulled to thin a row are referred to as "green garlic". Used in the same manner as green onions, these too make excellent eating."

And pics of garlic scapes:

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It is not a waste of the garlic to harvest it younger. This is all its charm, being that way, not as spicy as the mature garlic but at the same time so tasty and crunchy. There are some recipes that cannot be properly done without green garlic. Smiling




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drdawg
May 26, 2013 6:20 AM CST
Mima, the reason I think (most) green garlic is gotten from planted scape "bulbs" is because of the size of the bulb when these green garlic plants are pulled. The cloves I plant are already larger than the bulbs shown in the pictures you posted. I have nothing against harvesting green garlic, but would simply never do it with my garlic. I just can't plant enough to pull it early. Don't forget, what I sell pays for next years crop and for eating great garlic year-round.

I am nothing close to an expert here, and you already know my ignorance concerning green garlic would indicate this. I just grow the stuff for the big, flavorful, pungent cloves.
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sfrangu
May 26, 2013 1:50 PM CST
OK, I found that apparently green garlic grows from small cloves that are planted with this specific reason: to get the green garlic. And it depends on the garlic type one uses

I think I might try it myself. Of course, they might not grow in the end, but it's worth a try. Thumbs up
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abhege
May 26, 2013 5:28 PM CST
Another vendor at our market sells green garlic and it's immature garlic. I was aghast, as you Ken! WHY would I pull up my garlic before it was mature? Like you said, way too expensive to do that. Now, if it's a special kind of garlic, maybe. In fact, what this vendor may be pulling is Elephant Garlic, which is not really garlic at all. I haven't priced it but I'm guessing it's no where near as pricey as the good varieties of garlic we are growing.

I did see some scapes on a few garlic today. Whew! I was getting worried. But we planted both hardneck and softneck (several Creoles)
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drdawg
May 27, 2013 7:18 AM CST
Of my twelve varieties I recently dug up and are now curing, only my two hardneck varieties had scapes. I assume artichoke and Creole varieties don't grow scapes. I am going to let the scapes I have cure well and then see what they look like when I remove the skin. If there are miniature bulbs or seeds there, I will plant them in pots and see what develops. Another experiment in the making! Hurray!
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May 27, 2013 1:34 PM CST
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