Hostas forum: Autumn Frost

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Name: Evan
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eclayne
May 20, 2013 9:29 AM CST

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After seeing this photo I did some research. The Hosta Registry shows 20" high x 28" wide. Walters Garden/Perennial Resource (the Registrant/Originator) shows 12"H x 24"W. Proven Winners show a range which is similar to Walters size.

What is your experience of size for Autumn Frost?
Evan
Name: virginiarose
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virginiarose
May 20, 2013 6:52 PM CST
I don't have that particular Hosta but I have had problems in the past guessing the size. When I was putting all my Hostas in the data base I looked all of them up on 4 different websites and would get 4 different answers. I found out with the daylilies that the information they give when they register them is sometimes a guess. Maryott's went and evaluated all his daylilies and lots were registered wrong. I give more weight to the nurseries who grow them year after year because I think they have more experience with the real facts. I read things on the nursery websites that the Registrant probably never knew when they rushed the plant to registration. Most of the nurseries I checked with said 12x24 except Hostas Direct said 13xno, for some reason they declined to give a width.
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Name: Karen Skedgell-Ghiban
Nashville, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Tepelus
May 21, 2013 11:20 AM CST
This is my third year having the plant, when I bought it it was a first year, maybe second year TC plant. I don't keep records so I rely on my lousy memory. I didn't measure it, but it seems to be roughly 8 to 10 inches tall and about a foot to foot and a half wide.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
May 21, 2013 2:16 PM CST

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I wonder why the breeders don't update their registered plants after it becomes clear the data is wrong. That's a great pic and happy plant Karen. Thumbs up I never get TC starts to explode that quickly.
Evan
Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
May 21, 2013 4:33 PM CST
I think part of the problem is that the same plant, grown in different conditions or zones may vary a lot in how it grows and how large it gets. I have 'Cutting Edge'. Registry info puts it at 27" wide and 22" high making it only a medium sized hosta. Last year I won a "best in show" for foliage for LARGE leaves. And it looks as though it's been on steroids. I'm not sure what other info is out there about that one, but the Registry sure isn't correct.

To be fair, there sometimes are updates to Registry information.

Ann
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Name: Evan
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eclayne
May 21, 2013 4:41 PM CST

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Glad to hear there are occasional updates Ann. Thanks for that info. and congrats on your "Best in Show" for . Thumbs up Thumbs up I notice you have clump shots from back in '09. Nice to see that progress.
Evan
Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
May 21, 2013 6:02 PM CST
Thanks for that comment and the compliment, Evan. I was just looking at it thinking maybe it should be removed since it looks so different. Nice to hear your point of view. Anyway you look at it, this is one dramatic plant.
Ann

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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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eclayne
May 21, 2013 6:48 PM CST

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ViolaAnn said:I was just looking at it thinking maybe it should be removed since it looks so different.

Confused What looks so different? Your pic of Cutting Edge? Looks just like the pic in the Hosta Library.

Evan
Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
May 21, 2013 8:00 PM CST
I meant the pic of the plant in 2012 (too soon for such a pic in 2013 - it's not quite unfurled) and the pic in 2009 looked so different from each other. Gee, maybe I should submit some pics to the Hosta Library. I try to photograph them all about once a week.
Ann

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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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eclayne
May 21, 2013 8:21 PM CST

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OK gotcha.
Evan
Name: virginiarose
Virginia
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virginiarose
May 21, 2013 8:37 PM CST
I love cutting edge! Great picture Ann, and also Karen. My records show that I already have an 'Autumn Frost' so I will look for that soon and I have put 'Cutting Edge' on my wish list. Ann, you enabler you! Whistling


eclayne, mine exploded quickly! Try the Milorganite. nodding
Susan

In the spring, at the end of the day, you should smell like dirt.....Margaret Atwood
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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eclayne
May 21, 2013 8:50 PM CST

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Susan, I've been using the Milorganite regularly now. After cleaning the beds in the spring, I spread the Milorganite, then added some of whatever that particular bed or plants needed. Thumbs up Thumbs up
Evan
Name: virginiarose
Virginia
Money talks but Chocolate Sings!
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
Bee Lover Dahlias Butterflies Hostas Birds Lilies
virginiarose
May 22, 2013 5:30 AM CST
It helps a lot, I love it. Plus the rabbits and cats stay out of the beds. Thumbs up
Susan

In the spring, at the end of the day, you should smell like dirt.....Margaret Atwood
Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
Hostas Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Composter Region: Canadian Clematis
Canning and food preservation Container Gardener Annuals Herbs Seed Starter Vegetable Grower
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ViolaAnn
May 22, 2013 9:26 AM CST
Thanks to people for the "thumbs up" on the picture. Now, we need to get back to talking about 'Autumn Frost' and apologize to Evan for the detour we've taken.
Ann

Pictures of all my hostas, updated annually and tracked since 2008 begin at: https://violaann.smugmug.com/Garden/Hostas/Hostas-in-my-gard...
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Plant Database Moderator Forum moderator Aroids Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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eclayne
May 22, 2013 11:08 AM CST

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The detour is often more illuminating than the main road. Thumbs up Thumbs up
Evan
Name: virginiarose
Virginia
Money talks but Chocolate Sings!
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
Bee Lover Dahlias Butterflies Hostas Birds Lilies
virginiarose
May 22, 2013 8:05 PM CST
I agree I love detours....there are always surprises. LOL
Susan

In the spring, at the end of the day, you should smell like dirt.....Margaret Atwood

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