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Name: Sheryl
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sheryl
May 25, 2013 7:56 PM CST
The glass of water didn't work, and it rotted in moist soil. Any luck for anyone?
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Name: woofie
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woofie
May 28, 2013 8:06 AM CST
Did you put a cover over the cutting in the moist soil? I stuck a bunch of osteospermum cuttings in moist soil and this time I put a dome over them and they ALL took. (Tried it before without the dome and only got two to take.)
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Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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sheryl
Jun 1, 2013 8:34 PM CST
Yup, sure did .... it was right next to a rose that is *also* not rooting.... grrrr....
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Jun 2, 2013 7:59 AM CST
Grrrrr, I'm with you on the roses not rooting. I have tried and tried to take cuttings off the local wild roses. Hmmm, could your problem be the temperature where the cuttings are? Too hot? Not warm enough? I think they like bottom heat, sort of like starting seeds.
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Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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sheryl
Jun 3, 2013 8:37 PM CST
Yeah ... I have bottom heat on the roses, but I don't think I tried that with the Passiflora. Not that I'm sure the heat works when the room is already 80º, lol. Maybe I should try it in soil that isn't quite so moisture retentive.
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Jun 3, 2013 9:28 PM CST
*I* wouldn't work if the room were 80 deg.! Yuck! Hilarious!
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Name: Sheryl
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sheryl
Jun 5, 2013 5:51 PM CST
LOL, my plants don't get to be so picky, I'm afraid....
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Name: Elaine
South Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
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dyzzypyxxy
Jun 12, 2013 2:32 PM CST
I do have a cutting of P. Quadrangularis that has put out roots in just water. I left about 6 leaves on it, and of course we have high humidity here these days, which very likely also helped. It's been in the mid- to high-80's for the past few weeks already, and I have at least 4 kinds of passi's that love the heat here and bloom all summer. So by all means, give it heat, give it light, and give it as much humidity as you can!

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Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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sheryl
Jun 13, 2013 10:39 AM CST
Wow, Elaine - you're my new hero! And quadrangularis, too.... impressive.

Okay, you've inspired me. I have a little (12" high, 5x5" square) terrarium, think I'll stick it on a heat mat and try, try again....
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Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Jun 13, 2013 11:31 AM CST
Sheryl, I was so busy bragging I 'forgot' to tell you that I've been trying to root cuttings of this one all through the spring, and failed twice until this one worked. I'm thinking the vine needed to be growing, and that the heat and light were critical to success. Your terrarium sounds like a great idea! Put it by the window, too!

My others, P. Lady Margaret sends out suckers, and I have dug up and potted those before. The one that we get lots of fruit from P. incarnata 'Purple Possum' had seeded itself all over the back fence, but all the seedlings got nipped by cold weather in March, of all things! Now the vine, which was huge, and only 3 years old has died of trunk rot - a common thing down here when they grow big and fast - and I have to go hunting for one to replace it! I also have the bright red one P. coccinea rambling all around the back yard under an oak tree, and there are red flowers 40ft. up in the oak tree. I have yet to find where it came from, but I'm pretty sure it must be spreading by suckers, too because that one never makes fruit or seeds.

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Name: Sheryl
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sheryl
Jun 13, 2013 11:36 AM CST
Oh pretty!

Brag away, you're still waaayyy beyond where I am, lol! Have you only tried water rooting? We're talking about using willow water on another thread, I wonder if that might help.

Funny, I just got a Lady Margaret - wouldn't have bought it this late in the summer, but it was on sale from my fave on-line shop: http://www.easytogrowbulbs.com/c-177-passion-flower-vines.as... Looks like they're sold out, but there's a few more.kinds ... and the plants are always tops from them.
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Name: Elaine
South Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
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dyzzypyxxy
Jun 13, 2013 2:16 PM CST
I do root most cuttings in plain water at least until I see roots starting, then I pot them up and keep them in bright shade. I've never heard of willow water. What is it?

Some things you can just 'stick' a cutting in a pot or in the ground and they will take off. Again, heat, sandy soil and humidity all help that little miracle to happen. Florida is one big greenhouse in the summer, c/w bugs and fungus.
Elaine

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Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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sheryl
Jun 16, 2013 4:24 PM CST
dyzzypyxxy said:...., c/w bugs and fungus.


Shew. I guess I should be grateful that at least we have few of either of those two in Arizona.... I'm guessing they'd be cooked, here.

Willow water is simply water that has been soaking twigs or whips from willow trees. ... ah, I see you found the thread! Anywho, it is (usually) cheaper and maybe even more effective than a rooting hormone.

Okay, off to get more cuttings - wish me luck!

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Name: Anne
Summerville, SC (Zone 8a)
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Xeramtheum
Jun 19, 2013 9:25 AM CST
I root passies all the time .. I just cut off a stem about an inch below a leaf node and stick it in some dirt with the leaf node about a quarter inch under the rooting medium - the first 2 days I keep the soil pretty wet then let it start to dry out eventually keeping it just moist - more dry than wet and spritz the cuttings with water every time I happen to be around them .. I get about 75% success.

I do not use the rooting hormone ... I did an experiment a few years ago and found in my experience that plants root just as well without it as with and in some cases faster without it.

I also use a Forsythe Pot on some of the more stubborn ones which is all vermiculite (see picture) and I have had some passies take up to 6 months to root.

For the really, REALLY stubborn ones I've found that putting the cutting next to the donor plant also increases the odds. I think this works because the chemistry of the soil is what the plant is used to - kinda like the Coke/Pepsi thing.

The first picture is of all the passies I rooted last fall. The 2nd is the Forsythe Pot.


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Name: woofie
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woofie
Jun 19, 2013 10:28 AM CST
Hey, learn something new every day! I'd never heard of a Forsythe pot. What a neat idea! Thumbs up
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jun 19, 2013 10:31 AM CST
They are real easy to make .. I'll post a "how to ...".
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Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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woofie
Jun 19, 2013 11:55 AM CST
Yes! Do it as an article and collect some acorns. Smiling
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Name: Anne
Summerville, SC (Zone 8a)
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Xeramtheum
Jun 19, 2013 12:36 PM CST
Already done in this forum .. articles take too long to come out.
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Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Southwest Gardening Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
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sheryl
Jun 21, 2013 4:58 PM CST
Terrific, thanks so much, Xeramtheum. Perhaps I just kept it too moist, for too long. I have been doing all I can just to keep the mother plant from wilting at this point, so I guess I'll hold off hacking on it, too. It was a new planting about a month ago and we're way past 100 degrees, now....
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
Charter ATP Member Garden Procrastinator Greenhouse Dragonflies Plays in the sandbox I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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woofie
Jun 21, 2013 5:03 PM CST
You can still do it as an article. Smiling And that way, more people are likely to see it. Angel
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