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Jul 16, 2013 8:31 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I guess I am a little odd in how I handle my dozens of plumeria from October until March. My plants are far too large and numerous to keep potted up during those months, but I have to bring them inside because of our freezes here in NE Mississippi. Sometime around the first week or two of October, I dig up/unpot all my plumeria. I shake off most of the dirt and pile them under an oak tree. I leave them that way for 2-3 weeks and during that time they lose most of their leaves. Around the end of October I remove what leaves are left (large ones, not the tiny ones just formed), hose off the remaining dirt, and once they are dry I will put them all in large, black, contractor's bags. These bags will then go into closets or under a bench on the closed-in porch and they will over-winter that way. They get no light and no moisture for 4-5 months.

Keep in mind that all these plants are rooted, unless I accidentally break off a branch or two. Regardless, every single plumeria goes in these plastic bags. They do lose some moisture during those months and are thus a bit "skinnier" than when I put them away. Generally speaking, the tiny leaves and flower stalks remain intact when I un-bag them in the spring. I have done this for many years and the only plant(s) I remember that did not grow in the spring were several 'Peduca' plants I got from Hetty. That variety has very thin stalks and they were simply so dehydrated that they never grew back. Even the occasional broken branches rooted in the spring. Now I know to only do this with nice, plump plants. In the future, if I have any plants similar to the 'Peduca', I would leave them potted up during the winter months.
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Jul 16, 2013 9:46 AM CST
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Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
With some of my two year old seedlings I could store them bareroot now since they have thicker trunks. Most of my seedlings still have thin trunks so maybe next year I'll be able to store them bareroot.
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Jul 16, 2013 10:28 AM CST

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Plumeria pudica tends not to go dormant completely, which is probably why it rebelled at being deprived of water and nutrients Smiling
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Jul 16, 2013 10:55 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
Is pudica a fast grower?
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Jul 16, 2013 10:57 AM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
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It grows pretty fast for me here in Florida; I have hedges.... Green Grin!
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Jul 16, 2013 11:29 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Perhaps one day I will try the 'Peduca' again. The cuttings rooted quickly and even bloomed the first summer. I did not know they did not go dormant, so I killed them. Grumbling

Space is my problem, at least when fall rolls around. I have two "smallish", 10'x12' greenhouses, one for orchids/seedlings and the other for "all other tropical plants". They are both absolutely jammed-packed during the winter months. I could probably keep the 'Peduca' in my enclosed porch though. It is a screened porch spring through fall and then I attach clear vinyl panels over the screens to enclose it during the winter months.

Thanks for the "thumb", Cameron.
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Jul 16, 2013 11:55 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I saw one of your beautiful pictures of pudica in the database Hetty. Thumbs up I wish my plumerias grew fast. I think next year I may plunge a few containers to see if that helps.

You're welcome Ken Thumbs up Even if I could afford a greenhouse, I don't think I have room for one Hilarious! . I'll just crowd my dormant plumerias in my room and save the window space for my other houseplants.
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Jul 16, 2013 6:49 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
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We've had a couple years of warm winter so I kept mine mostly outdoor this year. The young seedlings I grew and new cuttings I bought late last year I just kept on my south facing garden tub Rolling on the floor laughing I have some plummies that had inflos in the fall and bloomed through Jan 2013 and some were just kept in the covered lanai. A few of which I forced into dormancy. I have several large plummies now so if we have a cold winter, I'm in trouble. I have no space to keep them inside.

So far though some that I forced into dormancy are blooming now and some that did not o dormant are still not blooming Grumbling Grumbling Same time last year, my garden was full of blooms, now only my miniature plummies are blooming.
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Jul 16, 2013 7:10 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
You're so lucky to live in a climate where you can keep them outdoors most of the year. I'm trying not to think about the eventual size of plumerias Rolling on the floor laughing I wonder why the plumerias that didn't go dormant haven't bloomed yet?
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Jul 16, 2013 7:36 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
Adeniums Roses Plumerias Orchids Miniature Gardening Hibiscus
Region: Florida Container Gardener Garden Photography Cactus and Succulents Butterflies Garden Ideas: Level 1
I'm wondering the same thing too. We have a very wet summer so I'm not sure if it has something to do with it. Yes, they get big my Hausten White is 9 feet tall.
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Jul 17, 2013 12:51 AM CST
Name: Online public--Cyra
Central CA (Zone 9a)
Weeeeel, you could always graft a lot of dwarf varieties onto your Hausten White...that would limit it's height, but then you'd have a rainbow tree, instead....and I suspect you're fond of it, as is Smiling
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Jul 17, 2013 4:57 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
Wow 9 feet?! Hopefully the rest of your plumeria will bloom soon Gigi. Cyra, that's a really good idea Thumbs up
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Jul 17, 2013 5:07 AM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
Adeniums Roses Plumerias Orchids Miniature Gardening Hibiscus
Region: Florida Container Gardener Garden Photography Cactus and Succulents Butterflies Garden Ideas: Level 1
I might be tempted to do that Cyra Smiling
©by Gigi Adenium Plumeria "Gardening is my favorite pastime. I grow whatever plant that catches my attention. I also enjoy hand pollinating desert roses.”
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Jul 17, 2013 5:13 AM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
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This is not a new idea though! The problem with creating a 'Rainbow Tree' - however wonderful a sight it is at first - is that the various cultivars all grow at different rates. In most cases one or two of the grafts will dominate the tree eventually.
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Jul 17, 2013 8:08 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
Wow I didn't know that Hetty.
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Jul 17, 2013 5:18 PM CST
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Plumerias Ponds
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My white pudica are doing wonderfully from last fall (Thanks Mike!) They wintered over nicely, though I did lose one bush. I have two planted in one pot and hope they will get big and bushy this year.---My oldest Plumie is over 6 feet tall, just put out 4 branches at the top./ It hasn't bloomed in so long that I have forgotten what color it is. It has to be one of two colors white or pink as I had two and lost one. I just don't know what this tall one is??
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Jul 17, 2013 5:41 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I hope your largest plumeria blooms this year Cheryl. Thumbs up
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Jul 17, 2013 10:03 PM CST
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Plumerias Ponds
Foliage Fan Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tropicals Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Thanks, TXPlume. This might be THE year?!
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Jul 18, 2013 4:43 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
And since it put out more branches, you may have even more inflos Thumbs up
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Jul 25, 2013 5:50 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
Adeniums Roses Plumerias Orchids Miniature Gardening Hibiscus
Region: Florida Container Gardener Garden Photography Cactus and Succulents Butterflies Garden Ideas: Level 1
Cameron as promised, here is the first bloom of my seedling plant. The color is pastel pink, with yellow throat 3 inches and looks like heavy bloomer. It is eerily similar to Treasure Isle of EP in color and size...hmmmm. I can't describe the fragrance because it has been raining. I'm so happy, I love pink colors! Hurray!

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