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Name: Neil
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NEILMUIR1
Jun 2, 2013 9:19 PM CST
Kate for you as it has leeks on this stand!
Regards.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 2, 2013 9:55 PM CST

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Wow, those are some very large leeks. And it is making me hungry looking at them.
Name: Neil
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NEILMUIR1
Jun 2, 2013 10:19 PM CST
Dear Lynn, they are not big leeks! Leeks are one of the only vegetables you can grow to massive size and still taste good. They grow them to massive sizes for village Horticultural shows to win prizes. It is an obsession in some parts of the UK. Highly prized leeks and highly guarded at all times.
My Grandfather had an allotment and grew pot leeks, which means only one leek in a massive pot! He grew them to win shows and used to sleep in his shed on the allotment with his dog to guard them!
Each person has a special recipe for the soil/compost they grow them in and the presentation at shows must be perfect!
Of course to the Welsh it is one of their emblems and rightly so!
if my grandfather won a show in the lots of Horticultural society's there are everywhere, my Grandmother would make steak and leek pudding, now I am getting hungry!
They do it with most vegetables over here, and especially shallots. They have to be the perfect size to fit through a governed size show ring, if not they cannot be entered for the show!
We are but a Nation of Gardeners.
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goldfinch4
Jun 3, 2013 12:42 AM CST

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That's very interesting Neil. Also a cute way to display the other vegetable in the first picture. Vegetable trees! Hilarious!
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 3, 2013 8:24 AM CST

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I did not know that about the leeks Neil. I may have to try growing them.

I agree Chris, it is quite clever how they arranged the vegetables.
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Eviesmummy
Jun 4, 2013 9:35 AM CST
I missed this! Thank you for the leeks, you're making me feel very Welsh Big Grin Cymru am byth!
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NEILMUIR1
Jun 4, 2013 12:46 PM CST
Well how about this Kate. Llanfair­pwllgwyn­gyllgo­gerychwyrn­drobwll­llanty­silio­gogogoch and I have been there!
For those who don't know, this is the name of a Welsh town! Rolling on the floor laughing
Nobody can pronounce it, well somebody in Wales might be able to.
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p.s. Way out on the station is much easier in English! Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Marilyn
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CDsSister
Jun 4, 2013 1:46 PM CST

What does it mean?

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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2013 2:23 PM CST

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Blinking Wow.
Can you pronounce it Kate?
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Eviesmummy
Jun 4, 2013 2:59 PM CST
I can pronounce it!
it translates as St Mary’s Church in the Hollow of the White Hazel Near to the Rapid Whirlpool of Llantysilio of the Red Cave.
There's a youtube clip of someone saying it I'll try and find it!
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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2013 3:01 PM CST

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Blinking Oh my goodness. Rolling on the floor laughing
Look forward to actually hearing it Kate. Big Grin
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Eviesmummy
Jun 4, 2013 3:01 PM CST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJXj86ZckQg
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Eviesmummy
Jun 4, 2013 3:04 PM CST
And yes that song is TERRIBLE!!!!
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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2013 3:10 PM CST

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Hurray! Kate I loved it. What fun. I would love to speak , is it Gaelic?
One of our grandsons has a Gaelic name, maithghamhain, which in modern times is shortened to Mathuin.
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Eviesmummy
Jun 4, 2013 3:10 PM CST
We cross posted! It's Welsh I only speak a little. Hangs head in shame, my native language and all that. But my Dad is fluent. My favourite Welsh world is archfarchnad. Said in a harsh tone it sounds like your cursing someone, but it actually means supermarket lol
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2013 3:16 PM CST

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Very interesting.
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Eviesmummy
Jun 4, 2013 3:18 PM CST
Neil, where abouts In England do you live? Never mind, I can see it's Kent!
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CDsSister
Jun 4, 2013 3:37 PM CST

I guess if I were paraphrasing I would say St Mary's near the whirlpool from the cave. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

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Eviesmummy
Jun 4, 2013 3:48 PM CST
It's very rarely used in full, usually it's shortened to LlanfairPG There's a story about how it got it's name, it is something to do with trying to out do somewhere else to get the longest name, but I forget the details.
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NEILMUIR1
Jun 4, 2013 4:52 PM CST
Dear Kate, it is easy the story behind the name.
The long name cannot be considered an authentic Welsh-language toponym. It was artificially contrived in the 1860s to bestow upon the station the honour of having the longest name of any railway station in Britain, an early example of a publicity stunt. The village's web site credits the name to a cobbler from the local village of Menai Bridge. According to Sir John Morris-Jones the name was created by a local tailor, whose name he did not confide, letting the secret die with him. The current postmark shows the name Llanfairpwllgwyngyll, but there are contemporary examples of the full name seen below.
However: he Carmarthenshire village of Llanfynydd unofficially adopted the name Llanhyfryddawelllehynafolybarcudprindanfygythiadtrienusyrhafnauole in 2004 in protest at plans to erect a wind farm nearby (the name means "a quiet beautiful village; a historic place with rare kite under threat from wretched blades" in English).
There is another answer to the name and that is because Wales lost at Rugby, the Rugby supporters drowned their sorrows in the pub, they could not spell way out in English, or indeed much else, so named it that! Rolling on the floor laughing
Sorry my theory! Smiling
Regards from Kent!
Neil.

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