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Name: Greg
Buena Park, California (Zone 10b)
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NW15
Jun 3, 2013 1:13 PM CST
Does anybody have or know of any? I've only seen this one so far.
http://www.flamingoholland.com/usa/flowerbulb/mistress
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jun 3, 2013 6:21 PM CST
Hallson usually has a large selection (9 0r 10) of dwarf Orientals. They're a darn good company and prices are reasonable. They grow most of their own stock. The website is: [url=www.perennialnursery.com]www.perennialnursery.com[/url]

I see Lowe's has a dwarf Oriental, After Eight, 3 in a pot for about $10.00. Sometimes they don't sell out and then get marked down to $5.00. I got a lot of my Dwarfs that way. I just grew them in their nursery pots till fall and then planted the bulbs and bulblets out when I planted all the rest of my ordered stuff. Keep an eye out at all the big box home improvement stores.

Dwarf Orientals have high bud count, are hardy and multiply pretty fast. I like them!


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Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Jun 3, 2013 6:38 PM CST
This confused me before, too:

Lorn, are you talking orientals or orientpets (OTs)?
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jun 3, 2013 7:17 PM CST

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'Mistress' is the only dwarf OT I could find in our data base here. There probably aren't many out on the market.
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jun 3, 2013 7:38 PM CST
Hi Rick: The one NW15 refers to (Mistress) is listed on the website as a 'pot Oriental' This website lists several (at least a dozen) pot Orientals, not just 'Mistress'. All of those listed I recognize as common commercial dwarf Orientals available in the market place on a crop rotational basis. Almost everywhere they are called 'dwarf Orientals'.

I'm not sure how these are dwarfed, whether it involves dwarf trumpets or not. Probably not. In fact, I didn't think NW15 actually meant OT in the post. I kinda assumed NW15 meant dwarf Oriental. But this raises the question we have: Are these really dwarf Oriental Trumpets? Interesting.
Name: Greg
Buena Park, California (Zone 10b)
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NW15
Jun 3, 2013 7:45 PM CST
I meant OT's like here it is listed as an OT http://www.perennialnursery.com/lily-mistress.html
I think on the flamingo site they just grouped them all together and called them pot lilies.
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jun 3, 2013 7:47 PM CST
I was going to say, too--the foliage of these does not resemble 'Trumpet' or 'Oriental'. It's very unique--short little, broad leaves. If you check out pot lilies section on the website NW15 has highlited, you'll see all the present day common ones.
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jun 3, 2013 7:57 PM CST
Well, well, well. If they've got it listed as as an OT, then it must so, for Mistress. We can ask, just to be sure, I guess. They're good people to deal with--and have a little forum on their website in which they participate.

Looks like I was the one confused this time.
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jun 3, 2013 8:55 PM CST

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I have often come across OTs being listed as Orientals. I come across all kinds of bologna like that in my research for the database. As far as I am concerned I go by what the registration says and 'Mistress' is registered as an OT by World Breeding.
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Moby
Jun 4, 2013 2:10 AM CST
Mistress is the only one that I know of ~ and it does not get any taller than 12 inches. Dwarf irises can be seen in front of the lilies.

Where are we going, and why am I in this hand-basket?
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jun 4, 2013 4:39 AM CST
Nice picture! And, here, I had been thinking 'Mistress' was a dwarf Oriental all along! Wow!
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jun 4, 2013 11:24 AM CST

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Moby, I should have know that you would have Mistress in your garden... Whistling
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Moby
Jun 4, 2013 12:11 PM CST
Naturally!
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Name: Greg
Buena Park, California (Zone 10b)
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NW15
Jun 4, 2013 12:58 PM CST
That's the cutest little lily I've ever seen! I have to have it! Drooling
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
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ge1836
Jun 5, 2013 2:43 AM CST
That is a sweetie.
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
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gwhizz
Jun 5, 2013 3:27 AM CST
2 that I know of a 'Souvenier' and 'True Emotions'
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Name: Greg
Buena Park, California (Zone 10b)
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NW15
Jun 5, 2013 1:37 PM CST
Souvenir and True Emotions are dwarf OT's?
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jun 5, 2013 2:18 PM CST

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They are both dwarf Oriental lilies.
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
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gwhizz
Jun 6, 2013 2:47 AM CST
Sorry!!! Blinking Shrug! I got it wrong..and what a stupid statement I made Shrug! ....back to the 'darkbox' for me Hilarious!
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Name: Greg
Buena Park, California (Zone 10b)
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NW15
Jun 6, 2013 2:53 AM CST
I would have believed you had someone said otherwise. They kind of have the same broad leaves as Mistress. Hilarious!

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