Cottage Gardening forum: Helenium- Sneeze Weed

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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jun 16, 2010 7:15 AM CST
I have the worst time telling this plant from a weed when not in flower. I'm so bad about not labeling things, and now I've got some questionable plants around that I thought may be the Heleniums I started from seed last year.

Do any of you have any pics of the plant while its not blooming? I'd love to see a close up of the leaves and stems. Of course, pics of them blooming would be lovely too!
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Bev
Garner, NC 7b
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tggfisk
Jun 22, 2010 8:29 AM CST
I have Helenium Mardi Gras. It's the only one I currently have, but it's been a trooper for the last 3 years.


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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Bulbs Cottage Gardener Roses Irises
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gemini_sage
Jun 22, 2010 2:30 PM CST
How pretty! That looks like a nice shorter one. The green part looks so non descript, I just know I've got weeds I'm tending out there! Is there any feature you've seen that sets it apart from other plants?
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
Jun 22, 2010 3:31 PM CST
John hasw been ripping out backthorn & brought in a leaf of a shade plant which we planted eons ago. We are both drawing blanks.
Name: Bev
Garner, NC 7b
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tggfisk
Jun 22, 2010 5:41 PM CST
Not sure Neal...I'll have to get a close up of the leaves and stems for you tomorrow.
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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gardengus
Jun 23, 2010 5:50 AM CST
I was just out looking and took some photos.
The one in bloom has a smother leaf . this tall one has little pointy bumps on the leaf edges.

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Name: Cinda
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gardengus
Jun 23, 2010 5:53 AM CST
Also the stem is not smooth , it has like flaps of flanges along it length wise.
Some of my photos came out blurry so going for more.
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Name: Bev
Garner, NC 7b
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tggfisk
Jun 23, 2010 5:53 AM CST
Thanks for doing that Cinda...Guess I'm running a little late:)
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jun 23, 2010 5:55 AM CST
Awesome, Cinda- thanks so much! I can see it does look a little different from Bev's, hers is probably more like the one you have in bloom, the leaves do look more smooth.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Bulbs Cottage Gardener Roses Irises
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gemini_sage
Jun 23, 2010 5:56 AM CST
Oh, that helps a lot too, the "wings" on the stems! I think that will narrow down which ones are weeds. Do those in bloom now have the winged stems too?
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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gardengus
Jun 23, 2010 6:03 AM CST
Yes I felt both stems,
Sorry no good pictures they are all blurry (camera issues)

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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jun 23, 2010 6:07 AM CST
Excellent! These are just the kind of details I'm looking for! Thanks soooo much!
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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gardengus
Jun 23, 2010 6:09 AM CST
I have trouble with these looking like weeds too I ''weeded'' out my first two years of plants then finally marked them with a stone so they have a chance Smiling
I do not know the names of the two types I have they were winter sown babies from three years ago. (piggy swap)
Keep believing ,hoping,and loving
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Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
Jun 23, 2010 9:45 PM CST
Glad that you could ID it. Our mystery leaf turned out to be a heuchera--leaf much larger than our other ones. Yes a lot of things get 'stone marked' here.
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Bulbs Cottage Gardener Roses Irises
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gemini_sage
Jun 24, 2010 6:50 AM CST
From a distance my gardens look pretty and full of color, but upon fairly close inspection they're obviously full of weeds. We went on vacation the last week of May, then I've been busy with work through June, so I'll have some serious inspection to discern the weeds from the Heleniums.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi

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