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So Cal (Zone 10b)
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OldGardener
Jun 4, 2013 2:28 PM CST
Is there a way to have information available on insects and plant diseases that one comes by in the garden (a small database perhaps)? If we had that, ATP would be a "one-stop shop" for me Big Grin

I realize that you can search for a reference in a forum but when you are not even sure of what you are looking at, it is difficult to find the correct search terms.

For example, recently I discovered what appeared to be an 8" worm-like, striped "snake" with a triangular head in one of my pots. After searching the net, I found that it was just a shovel-head worm and that they are recent introductions to the area. It would have been great if I could have looked up the critter here, though, as this is my preferred site Big Grin

Any chance at all??? (there is no begging icon or I would have attached it here Hilarious! )
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Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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woofie
Jun 4, 2013 2:59 PM CST
You know, I was thinking that it might be nice to have a place in the database to list the insects and diseases common to the individual plants, but it might actually make more sense to have a bug database and list the plants it affects instead. Hmmm, except that would vary by region. But that doesn't sound like an insurmountable problem. Maybe something to consider for later?
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2013 3:22 PM CST
OldGardener, did you get a photo? Hurray!

I love the idea of having a place here at ATP to search for plant/garden pests.
It is all part of our gardening experience and would be another photo opportunity that could benefit our members.
So Cal (Zone 10b)
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OldGardener
Jun 4, 2013 4:15 PM CST
woofie said: Hmmm, except that would vary by region. But that doesn't sound like an insurmountable problem.


Could that just be a data box - something like "common to:" or "commonly found in:".

Unfortunately, I did not think to take a picture. I kept it in a jar while researching. I am glad that I looked it up, though, because I read that if you step on them or otherwise cut them, the pieces will form a new individual. They eat earthworms by "whipping" their bodies around their victim and I read horror stories of them "whipping" their bodies around peoples ankles and wrists. Blinking

I have since found 3 more but they were smaller individuals. I will get a picture next time around.
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So Cal (Zone 10b)
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OldGardener
Jun 4, 2013 4:19 PM CST
And snail eggs. Have you seen snail eggs? I gardened for decades before spying those 2 years ago... Another strange internet search.
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Name: Pat
Indianapolis, Indiana (Zone 6a)

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Pat72
Jun 4, 2013 4:24 PM CST
Especially something that talks about spider mites, at least that is what I think abused my garden last season. If their is one already on them, please give me a link if it isn't too much trouble. I lost 10 balloon flowers, two monkshoods, one bleeding heart before I realized what was happening. I have only had this profound interest in gardening for three years, and I'm no where near having a green thumb lol. They are nearly microscopic, white, and take no time eating my plants to death. I have lost just one bleeding heart this year so far to them, so I'm doing something right for now at least Smiling
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So Cal (Zone 10b)
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OldGardener
Jun 4, 2013 4:31 PM CST
Welcome! I am so happy you found us! Are you an organic gardener or do you use chemicals? I am sorry to hear that the spider mites did so much damage.
"In the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." -Abraham Lincoln
So Cal (Zone 10b)
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OldGardener
Jun 4, 2013 4:38 PM CST
If you type in "spider mites" in the search bar in the upper right hand corner (green search button), it'll link you to several articles on this site. I hope this helps and, again, Welcome! It is always great to see a new person!
"In the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." -Abraham Lincoln
Name: Pat
Indianapolis, Indiana (Zone 6a)

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Pat72
Jun 4, 2013 6:58 PM CST
Thank you for the welcome! Smiling I actually do as much as I can to avoid using chemicals, in fact, I actually don't like even using tap water, but since I have a balcony of plants in an apartment complex, I have to do what I have to do :). Thanks OldGardener, I will do this and hopefully it will help I agree


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"I am a drug. People take me." ---Salvador Dali
Take a look at my blog here on ATP, "Balcony Bliss" Smiling
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums
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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2013 7:37 PM CST
Welcome! Welcome Pat. There is so much here to help you on your way to acquiring a very green thumb. Thumbs up
Desire to garden plays a big part in it. Hurray!
Name: Pat
Indianapolis, Indiana (Zone 6a)

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Pat72
Jun 4, 2013 8:07 PM CST
Great to hear that, valleylynn, thank you! Big Grin I really enjoy what I've been doing so far, so I'm very excited about learning more Thumbs up
"I am a drug. People take me." ---Salvador Dali
Take a look at my blog here on ATP, "Balcony Bliss" Smiling
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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woofie
Jun 4, 2013 8:41 PM CST
Then you've come to the right place, Pat! And Welcome!
Smiling
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums
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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2013 10:14 PM CST
I agree
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Jun 5, 2013 9:06 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

I don't want to make a very large and expansive database of pathogens, bugs or diseases but I certainly have no problem in setting up something simple where gardeners can share information with each other.

We can make a simple forum and start the discussions. From there if we feel the need, we can design some kind of feature that fits what we want.
So Cal (Zone 10b)
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OldGardener
Jun 5, 2013 9:41 AM CST
I think a forum would be great. At the very least, it would give people a place to post their questions or pics of damage/disease/insects etc. to get an identification or advice.
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So Cal (Zone 10b)
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OldGardener
Jun 5, 2013 10:02 AM CST
Could we have a "mini-database" within the forum using a few stickies? For example, one sticky could be "Eggs" or "Egg Identification" with just pictures of eggs (snails, praying mantis egg cases, etc.) followed by the id, perhaps another sticky entitled "Who the heck is this???" - okay, the wording needs to be changed Smiling - and it could show various critters with an id tag, etc., one titled "Who ate my plant? or something like that with pictures of damage and possible culprits, etc. ? Or perhaps the general membership doesn't want a new forum??
"In the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." -Abraham Lincoln
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Jun 5, 2013 10:36 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

We can do that, for sure.

It sounds like you've got solid ideas here; want to be the moderator? Then you can lead the effort and set the threads up and all.
So Cal (Zone 10b)
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OldGardener
Jun 5, 2013 10:44 AM CST
I am not sure what that all entails but I definitely don't mind doing work. May I send you a tree-mail with questions later today?
"In the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." -Abraham Lincoln
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Jun 5, 2013 10:50 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

Certainly.

Basically being a moderator means you have the power to edit posts, lock threads, make threads sticky, and things like that, in the forum that you moderate.

We also have a private forum that the moderators have access to in which questions and answered. It's a little community of moderators that is quite helpful. As a moderator you would have access to that.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums
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valleylynn
Jun 5, 2013 12:44 PM CST
I'm all ears!
Can't wait to see this happen.

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