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Jul 6, 2023 9:03 AM CST
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Name: Patricia
Northeast Ohio (Zone 6a)
I have this pic in my pictures and have no idea what rose it is. Any ideas?


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Jul 6, 2023 2:54 PM CST
Name: Elena
Cincinnati, OH (Zone 6b)
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I think it's old rose...
May be
https://heirloomroses.com/coll...

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Jul 6, 2023 3:13 PM CST
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Name: Patricia
Northeast Ohio (Zone 6a)
Elena999 said: I think it's old rose...
May be
https://heirloomroses.com/coll...

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I believe it is an older rose. Not sure which one. I thought of Madam Ernest Calvat, but, I think it looks more like the one you linked me to. Baronne Pre'vost, who I know nothing about. It's really beautiful and I imagine fragrant.
Thank you, Elena. Smiling
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Jul 6, 2023 5:17 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
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Jul 6, 2023 5:55 PM CST
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
Patricia, it seems like alot of old roses, such as Souvenir de la Malmaison, and La Reine, just to name two, and what are now called romantic roses of newer introductions look very similar to almost identical to your pic. The first rose I thought of is SM which I have. Very fragrant, too!
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Jul 7, 2023 5:53 AM CST
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Name: Patricia
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porkpal said: Do you remember where you got the picture?


I don't, Porkpal. Wish I did.
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Jul 7, 2023 5:55 AM CST
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Name: Patricia
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reh0622 said: Patricia, it seems like alot of old roses, such as Souvenir de la Malmaison, and La Reine, just to name two, and what are now called romantic roses of newer introductions look very similar to almost identical to your pic. The first rose I thought of is SM which I have. Very fragrant, too!


I thought SDLM was a lighter pink. The form of the bloom looks the same, but, does your rose get this color?
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Jul 7, 2023 6:52 AM CST
Name: Arturo Tarak
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LittleAnnie said: I thought SDLM was a lighter pink. The form of the bloom looks the same, but, does your rose get this color?

I agree
Mine is almost white just like the photo of Zuzu


It is delightfully fragrant.

imho, 'La Reine', which I used to have ( Thumbs down Crying ) is a much closer bet...

However your photo shows a swirling of the center petals that la Reine doesn't have.
It probably is one of the other hybrid perpetuals.

Arturo
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Jul 7, 2023 10:54 AM CST
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Name: Patricia
Northeast Ohio (Zone 6a)
hampartsum said: I agree
Mine is almost white just like the photo of Zuzu


It is delightfully fragrant.

imho, 'La Reine', which I used to have ( Thumbs down Crying ) is a much closer bet...

However your photo shows a swirling of the center petals that la Reine doesn't have.
It probably is one of the other hybrid perpetuals.

Arturo


That's what I thought, Arturo, as far as color. I have several white roses, so, if I get another I would want some color. Thanks. La Reine is highly prone to black spot, isn't it? That's important because I live in black spot alley.
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Jul 7, 2023 11:39 AM CST
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Have not heard from you in a while I don't think Arturo. Good to hear from you again!
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Jul 7, 2023 11:58 AM CST
Name: Margie
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vaporvac said: Have not heard from you in a while I don't think Arturo. Good to hear from you again!


Arturo is BACK!!!!
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Jul 7, 2023 3:46 PM CST
Name: Arturo Tarak
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MargieNY said: Arturo is BACK!!!!


Hi Margie! Well its winter down here...we are expecting snow flakes in a few minutes... Smiling
so I have a bit more time these forthcoming days.
I had a very....VERY...exacting and stressful summer, because our only source of water our wells dried up almost completely... Crying I had to lift all my rosebushes, rhodies and many other plants, place them in containers near our sources of water lines and in the few minutes left of water, sometimes just only 15 minutes, hurry to hand water as many cans as possible...and then wait for 3 hours for another short round. By keeping my cans moist I was able to rescue 225 bushes! Now they are almost all placed inside our cool greenhouses. I will have to provide special extra care for them all of these coming 2 to 3 years, before I set up a new watering scheme and place them in drought resilient beds, that I was able to contrive for my place this summer. Huge ammounts of work ahead for these years, for an older body! It will also require the preparation and lining of water reservoirs, plus a different drip system. On the positive side, however we were able to dig a new well! It has plenty of water!!! Hurray! in the driest part of the year, in the driest drought year of cycle of three sequencial years, ever seen! So with that perspective I can relax a bit and feel comfortable about keeping roses again... Green Grin!

I ask forgiveness because my answer to the just above post is off topic of this thread. I admit that I try to keep tribulation to myself, while I handle it.... *Blush* . The world at large has enough of that at present, so as to add my own minute one...although mine is huge to me... nodding

Arturo
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Jul 7, 2023 4:58 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
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Welcome back, Arturo! I'm glad your herculean efforts saved so many plants and that the new well will make further water crises unlikely.
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Jul 7, 2023 5:44 PM CST
Name: Arturo Tarak
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porkpal said: Welcome back, Arturo! I'm glad your herculean efforts saved so many plants and that the new well will make further water crises unlikely.

@porkpal Thank You! Thank You! . That is just very nice of you... Smiling
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Jul 7, 2023 6:59 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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hampartsum said: Hi Margie! Well its winter down here...we are expecting snow flakes in a few minutes... Smiling
so I have a bit more time these forthcoming days.
I had a very....VERY...exacting and stressful summer, because our only source of water our wells dried up almost completely... Crying I had to lift all my rosebushes, rhodies and many other plants, place them in containers near our sources of water lines and in the few minutes left of water, sometimes just only 15 minutes, hurry to hand water as many cans as possible...and then wait for 3 hours for another short round. By keeping my cans moist I was able to rescue 225 bushes!

Arturo

Oh my, what a terrible experience. You totally amaze me - I don't know how in the world you were able to save all those roses and shrubs. God must have been watching over you.
We are in a drought here on Long Island too. It only snowed 2 inches this past winter - I think the snow shovel rusted. Occasionally, I hear thunder in the distance over the Sound (water), it will drizzle for 5 mins. and that's it. I am presently working with 5 garden hoses. Over this past winter the cesspools went on me. In an effort to locate the cesspool and overflow the workers had to dig up my largest rose bed (60+). After the workers completed their work I had to replant the roses. It was so cold. When Spring arrived, I could see some of the roses were ground level. I gave them a dose of liquid fertilizer - fast acting and scratched in a cup of alfafa meal and slow deep watered each rose.I remember the day I smiled from ear to ear when I discovered new growth emerging from each of the roses.
What you went through this past year was 100x worse than what occurred here. I have to give you a lot of credit - that was indeed a huge accomplishment.
Sending you my very best,
Margie NY
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Jul 8, 2023 11:12 AM CST
Name: Arturo Tarak
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I just came back inside feeling quite accomplished, my smile of the caliber of yours, @MargieNY , when something out of the blue happens and after huge effort things get back into shape.
I guess that we should be prepared to extremes... Sighing!
Usually adversity appears when least expected, completely out of schedule...yes I had to cut back much of my internet activity... Sighing! which makes gardening so enjoyable. But after spending weeks in survival mode, with the full garden ushered expedite inside the ER., eventually one can look back , and only realize what one went thru, and everyone is understanding and sympathetic. Thank You! to everyone here, specially to @RoseBlush1 Lyn who helped me during the most difficult part of making difficult decisions.

Perhaps we could reconsider the continuation of this topic in a separate thread. Should I start a new one @zuzu? Something in the order what to do if one recognizes that the full collection of roses will dry out dead unless immediate action is taken.

Arturo
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Jul 8, 2023 11:44 AM CST
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Name: Patricia
Northeast Ohio (Zone 6a)
hampartsum said: I just came back inside feeling quite accomplished, my smile of the caliber of yours, @MargieNY , when something out of the blue happens and after huge effort things get back into shape.
I guess that we should be prepared to extremes... Sighing!
Usually adversity appears when least expected, completely out of schedule...yes I had to cut back much of my internet activity... Sighing! which makes gardening so enjoyable. But after spending weeks in survival mode, with the full garden ushered expedite inside the ER., eventually one can look back , and only realize what one went thru, and everyone is understanding and sympathetic. Thank You! to everyone here, specially to @RoseBlush1 Lyn who helped me during the most difficult part of making difficult decisions.

Perhaps we could reconsider the continuation of this topic in a separate thread. Should I start a new one @zuzu? Something in the order what to do if one recognizes that the full collection of roses will dry out dead unless immediate action is taken.

Arturo


You are, apparently, a valued member in this forum. I've only been here for about 8 months, so, it's nice to 'meet' you, Arturo. I tip my hat to you.
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Jul 8, 2023 11:50 AM CST
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We have such a wonderful and active group of forum members now, Arturo, and i think they read every post in every thread and they don't limit themselves to the ones with titles that sound pertinent to their own experience, but you are certainly welcome to start as many threads as you like. Smiling
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Jul 8, 2023 2:25 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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@hampartsum, Arturo ...

I don't know how much help I gave you, but I am delighted to hear that you managed to save so many roses .... I tip my hat to you. and other plants. Good news.

I, too, haven't had much time to be online due to a combination of a foot that is still giving me fits and other health issues.

I had to finally hire someone to help me finish mulching all of the roses. I just couldn't do it myself. As of this last Thursday, all of the roses are properly mulched Hurray! Unfortunately, while I was focused on that, the heat hit and I got a spider mite infestation in part of the garden ... I stopped washing the roses for a few days ... Sighing! , so some of the roses in that section of the garden are almost defoliated. I have stopped the infestation, but am uncertain how to approach bringing the roses back. I have some ideas, but just getting out to wash the roses while walking with a cane takes a lot of effort.

I'll figure something out.

Congratulations for meeting an unexpected challenge.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Jul 15, 2023 9:21 AM CST
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As per Google Lens, it is called Felicia. Lens actually showed the exact same photo.

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