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Jun 8, 2013 11:29 AM CST
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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Blooming in zone 8, north central Fl. now. It looks like the previous owner was in the habit of chopping the crepes off at 5 or 6' every year Grumbling so I don't know what the ultimate height of this will be. It is presently about 10/11' & still growing. I was not here when the leaves turned so the trees were bare when we moved in. If more photos are needed I can comply. If you want another angle or to see something closer or in different light --- just say the word!






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Jun 8, 2013 10:06 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Crepe Myrtle (Lagerstroemia 'Natchez') is the super common white crepe myrtle and it's my bet that's what you've got there.
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Jun 9, 2013 8:39 AM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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Natchez is a good bet, it is actually a cross between L indica and L fauriei and can get up to 20 feet tall. Your tree looks like it has been a victim of what we call Crape Murder....whacking the top off to control size.
http://www.monrovia.com/plant-...

Acoma is another nice white, also a cross or indica and fauriei, but it rarely tops 12 ft in height and is not readily available across Fla. Its leaves are small, so think that rules it out.
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/datab...

Another popular white is L indica 'Alba' and it is readily available and used extensively across the South

http://www.naturehills.com/cra...

It may take a couple years of regrowth to be able to positively determine which one you have
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Jun 9, 2013 11:12 AM CST
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Yeah, I know ........ I hate Angry Angry Angry Crape Murder yet I see it all the time! Do you know that every single site I went to to try to determine which variety it was said to cut them off every year. I got so disgusted!

Thank you both! I'm going to investigate this a little further. Maybe dig around the bottom of it & see if I can come up with a plant tag. I have found numerous tags by doing that. I don't think it was any particular plan of the owners but seems more like happenstance that the tag ended up in the mulch or soil when they planted things. And I'm going to take another good, long examination of it to see if I can determine the variety. If not, then I'll just have to wait a while & see what happens as it grows.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Jun 9, 2013 11:57 AM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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Not only is it extremely hard on the trees, it shortens their life span.

This link may help...scroll down to lagerstroemia and check out the images...pics of leaves, bark flowers etc for indica, fauriei and hybrids....it will at least give you something to compare to.

but only if I post it....DUH

http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ld...
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Jun 9, 2013 6:03 PM CST
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Hilarious! Hilarious! And I thought I was the queen of missing links! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! I do that all the time. Hilarious!

Thanks Moonhowl, I think that will help a lot. I'm really busy tomorrow but Tues. I should be able to do some in depth investigative work.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Jun 9, 2013 11:11 PM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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There are days i think I married the missing link.... Whistling Green Grin!

You are most welcome.
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Jun 13, 2013 8:30 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
After much more research & investigation I have determined this is L. "Natchez" as Dave stated right off the bat.
So she's going int he db as soon as I get a chance to put her there.
The good news is that it looks like the crepes were only crepe murdered maybe 2 years so the damage isn't irreversible.
The bad news is that the crepes were planted too close together & it will be a hard, heavy & costly undertaking to move them at this point. There are a few that were apparently planted last year & are small enough that dh & I can move them ourselves this fall/winter so at least those will be good to go!
Thanks to both of you! I tip my hat to you.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Jun 13, 2013 8:36 AM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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Bravo. Glad you were able to nail it down.

Good luck to ya moving them.
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