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xShainax
Jun 8, 2013 5:13 PM CST
Since this is allthingsplants, I thought there could be an aquatic plant section? If anyone has a planted tank they can show it off?
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daylily
Jun 8, 2013 8:39 PM CST
I have posted a few aquatic plants from my tank to the database. I got into planted tanks about a year ago.

Do you follow one of the "methods" with your tank?

In the fish club I belong to, there is one guy who has amazing plants. He has lots of tanks, all "high tech" with CO2 injection, lots of fertilizing etc.

With mine, I do a Low Tech, more or less following the Tom Barr method. I have been amazed at how the tank nearly takes care of itself.

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woofie
Jun 8, 2013 9:16 PM CST
Don't know if this is really anything like what you guys are talking about, but did either of you see this thread?

The thread "Aquaponics starter project." in All Things Gardening forum
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Jun 8, 2013 9:33 PM CST
Hi xShainax!

Welcome! Welcome! to ATP! Welcome!

I don't do water plants, but I wanted to Welcome! you here! Welcome!

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xShainax
Jun 8, 2013 10:10 PM CST
Not aquaponics, just regular run of the mill planted aquariums and NPT's. I just have an aquarium with simple low light plants. My aquatic plants thumb is pretty much dark gray. Ignore the dead leaves, I used H202 to kill some stubborn algae and they died from the treatment. Thumb of 2013-06-09/xShainax/4e49c3
and here is a picture of the occupant.Thumb of 2013-06-09/xShainax/2cb2b2
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Jun 8, 2013 10:57 PM CST
Welcome! I didn't see the "new ATP member" below your name. I did look at your profile just now, and see you just signed up though... so Welcome!

I also used peroxide for some algae, and it worked well. First, I drained about 1/3 of the water from the tank. Then, I turned off the filtration so the water was still. I used a hypodermic needle I got at a craft store to put the peroxide in and that let me put it directly on the algae - mine was hair algae. By using the hypodermic needle, I was able to make a little "puddle" of peroxide over the algae without flooding the tank or even the plant with the peroxide. I left it "sit" for about 20 minutes, then did my normal water change and turned the filters back on. I've done it a few times, and it seemed to work well each time. It takes a few days for the algae to start to turn brown. Now that I have the Otocinculus I have not had to treat for algae. I don't think you have enough plants in your tank to have Otos though. And, a betta would probably harrass them to much, since you have very few plants in your tank for cover. In my 15 gallon, where the Otos are, it's pretty heavily planted, and the Otos hide all during the daylight hours, and only come out at night. Still, they are doing a good job of keeping the algae cleaned up in the tank.

I have a terrible time taking photos of my tanks. I have two Fluval Spec V's that are planted (5.5 gal.). Each one has a nerite snail and a male betta. Then I have a 15 gallon that has a LOT of plants, a few cherry red shrimp, 16 chili rasbora, 8 celestial pearl danios, 3 otocinculus, 4 dwarf cory cats. That seems like a lot of fish, but the chili rasbora are really tiny. And, that tank has a LOT of plants, and has two filters that are both rated at twice the amount needed for the tank. Everybody seems really happy, so Shrug! When I go to the large city near me again, and go to the big aquarium specialty store, I want to get a few more pygmy cory, to bring my numbers up to 7. They like to be in groups. The Celstial Pearl Danios have done a number on my cherry shrimp population. The shrimp were the clean up crew. So, adding in a few more cory cats should be "a good thing"

A local fish club "plant guy" has really helped me set my tanks up. Even so, it really is a balancing act between the type of lights you have and the number of hours you have the lights on, the type of plants you have, the type of substrate and the type and quantity of fertilizer.

I can't tell just what type of plants you have from your photos. Do you have fast growing "stem" plants? Those will add the most quality to your water. Even floating plants like water lettuce, pennywort etc. will help a lot with that. Do you use a fertilizer such as Seachem Flourish?

Have you been to the website " The Planted Tank" - lots of great info there. http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/index.php

Looks like you have a plakat betta? Is that an elephant ear one? His tail looks a bit like a crowntail. My first betta is a plain old pet store one, a "veil tail" but about a month ago, I got a dragon scale male plakat from that fancy fish specialty store. He must be a cull from a show breeder. You can see he is quality compared to Victor. He's such a charmer and has SO much personality.

Here is "Victor" the veil tail in his tank. It's the first tank I set up. I just switched from the stock light that came with the tank, which was rather dull LED to a Marineland Double Bright and have started seeing some algae, so I am cutting back the hours it is on trying to find that sweet spot where the plants are getting enough light, without the algae growing. The plants are really responding to the increased light that the new fixture gives off. I moved some floating water lettuce and Red Root Floaters into this tank to try to cut the lighting a bit. Poor Victor is always tearing his fins up on the "betta log" but he really loves hiding and sleeping in it.
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This is my 15 gallon tank, taken a couple weeks ago. I got a new camera and was trying it out. I see one cherry shrimp on the big piece of driftwood, but none of the fish show up in this shot. The fish are all pretty small, at 1/2" and 3/4". There are about 20 types of plants in this tank. Not really by design. The "plant guy" gave me a bunch of things to try and almost all grew. I have very, very hard water, with high PH. So we were not sure what would make it and what would not. I actually use half "RO" or reverse osmosis water that I buy at the grocery store with my well water to "cut" the hardness and PH. It still measures "very hard" and PH of 8.0 Crying
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Here is "new guy" who does not have a name yet. This does not do him justice - he looks like he has aluminum foil all over his body - it is very shiny silver.
I have not taken any photos of his tank yet. I started it 2-3 months ago. It's cycled and all that, especially with all the plants, but the plants are not settled in yet. And it has a new Marineland Double Bright also. Has some Diatom since it's a new tank. So, no photos of the entire tank yet.
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xShainax
Jun 8, 2013 11:33 PM CST
They are hygrophila and in the back of the purple fake coral thingy is a red lugwidia plant. I dose with c02 booster every three days, and Plant zone plant food weekly. I had a horrible crash in my 29 gallon, which killed everything in my tank, and the plants are looking a little worse for wear. I am waiting for it to re-cycle for me. I plan on switching my 3 2.5 gallon aquariums into planted tanks too. The girl in my picture is just a regular CT and i bought her with a drop dead gorgeous dragonscale doubletail betta. In all I have 8 betta's. I am also a member the plantedtank.net Smiling Its a nice little forum and the people are friendly. One guy shipped me over the water wysteria. Thumb of 2013-06-09/xShainax/e776b9
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Here are a few pics of my new boy. :)
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daylily
Jun 9, 2013 4:03 AM CST
(smacks palm of hand to forehead) I should have seen that was a female! Sorry...

That is a really pretty boy you have there! You managed to capture the silvery look of the dragon scale much better than I did with mine.

I belong (online) to a couple betta breeder clubs/sites so I can learn about bettas but I won't try breeding. I sure have enjoyed having them though, especially the "new guy"

I have not been through a tank crash - yet - I am sure it will happen at some point. When I read about that happening on the Planted Tank, it's just heart breaking. So sorry that happened to you.

I dread the day when our electric goes out for a few days. in 2005 we lost power for 16 days. Last summer, we lost power for 5 days. I have a battery backup for the bigger tank, but that would not last for a full week.

I have not had the best luck with the wisteria. It looks good for a while, then the bottom melts away. I clip the tops off and replant, they go good for a while, and then it happens all over. The guy I got it from said they do better floating. So I tried that, but then all the roots hang down and I don't think it's very attractive, and certainly hard for a betta to navigate through.
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woofie
Jun 9, 2013 12:38 PM CST
You know, you guys might want to have this thread moved over to somewhere like the All Things Gardening forum with a different subject line, like maybe "Planted aquariums" and see if anyone else might like to see a separate forum on the subject. Get enough interest, and Dave will make one. I'll bet there are more people who'd be interested.
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Jun 10, 2013 6:39 AM CST

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woofie is right. Use All Things Gardening to talk about this interesting subject and if the conversation goes on long enough and the interest is strong enough, we can make a whole forum dedicated to the subject.
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xShainax
Jun 10, 2013 11:36 AM CST
It will be interesting. When I first started out with horticulturing(Doesn't know if it's a word), I never even imagined that there were people with plants in their aquariums, especially people who made aquascapes that looked exactly like landscaping pictures
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gardengus
Jun 20, 2013 4:05 PM CST
Don't have any tanks now but I have seen some incredible planted tanks and keep thinking one day . they were just like underwater gardens.
Once upon a time I had 17 tanks up and running all fresh water and collected several fish. That was all BC (before children)
No place around here to get a good selection of plants .Do you all order online somewhere?
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xShainax
Jun 20, 2013 11:24 PM CST
gardengus said:Don't have any tanks now but I have seen some incredible planted tanks and keep thinking one day . they were just like underwater gardens.
Once upon a time I had 17 tanks up and running all fresh water and collected several fish. That was all BC (before children)
No place around here to get a good selection of plants .Do you all order online somewhere?


I got them from a few members of fish forums I am part of. I would love to get a 200 gallon planted discus tank going
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daylily
Jun 21, 2013 8:53 AM CST
Cinda, mine came from a local fish club member who is really into plants. He does do mail order.

A couple came from a large aquarium specialty store an hour away.

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gardengus
Jun 21, 2013 9:47 AM CST
Thanks for that info.
I guess when I am ready I should find a local club I am sure to learn a whole lot Smiling
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Meredith79
Aug 2, 2014 8:17 AM CST
I think a planted tank forum is an awesome idea, I joined a couple other forums to learn more about it. Here is my Planted 120XH Discus Tank. I planted it in November 2013.
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daylily
Aug 2, 2014 10:32 AM CST
That is really beautiful! Discus are not the easiest fish to keep, if I remember... So you must be doing everything right!

I wish I could have a large tank. I know from having the smaller ones that a larger one would be to much for me, no matter how much I would like it!

I don't know if we will get a forum just for planted aquariums because there is not that much interest here.

It's nice to see another tank posted here! Hurray!
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Meredith79
Aug 2, 2014 1:43 PM CST
Thanks Juli! Yes I noticed that this thread din't get much response but I still want to support it since it would be awesome if planted tank people got together here. We have great resources like the multi plant photo tool, to show everyone what we are growing. It is hard to tell people whats in your tank without something like that.
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Aug 2, 2014 7:32 PM CST
This is a forum I would be interested in, I have always wanted a planted tank but have not had the best success, would love to learn more. Right now I have 6 Marino Moss Balls, I like how they move around the tank and help keep the algae under control.
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Aug 2, 2014 11:07 PM CST
If you have any questions I'd be happy to try and answer them for you!

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