Daylilies forum: Odd Pods

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OldGardener
Jun 13, 2013 10:19 AM CST
Does anyone know what causes this type of deformation in a seedpod?

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Several of one cultivar's pods have the extra part on the third chamber (ie., 2,2,3) and I am seeing the same now with another cultivar. The other pods (other than the quads) are normal (I think you need to click on the pic to get a full view??):


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I understand that it is not a polymerous bloom or it would be 2,2,2,2 but am wondering what causes the 2,2,3 to occur (I just noticed that if you click on the last pic, the pod on the right has the 2,2,3 , too)?
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Jun 13, 2013 10:52 AM CST
You mean you can tell from a pod if the flower is going to be a poly? Or is a 2 2 2 2 on a poly?

I dont think ive ever seen something like yours, but I really have never really given the pods a once over. Im going to have to go out and look.
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Jun 13, 2013 11:23 AM CST
I apologize - I should have said "not from a polymerous bloom" Big Grin - I won't know until I grow these seeds out and they bloom if there are any polys in the group.

This is the first year that I have had these types of pods and they are numerous (40%?) - but only 2 cultivars are throwing these.It gets more complex, too, but I am not sure if I can explain what is happening clearly. But... here goes:

I have 7 pots of one of these cultivars and 3 of the 7 are setting these odd pods (along with 4 chambered pods (8 sections). The other 4 pots all have normal pods - the standard 3 chambers, 6 sections - and not a single odd pod shows up in them. So given this and the fact that all of them set normal pods in the past makes me believe that it is not cultivar related (plus another cultivar has started setting these odd ones, too). We have some theories floating about in the house but I was wondering what everyone here thought.
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Jun 13, 2013 11:43 AM CST
That is really interesting. I've seen 2 2 2 2 before on poly too - but I don't know if I have ever noticed 2 2 3

And, odd your seeing it on more than one cultivar.
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Jun 13, 2013 11:48 AM CST
I'm perplexed. I would ignore it if it were just one or two pods, but there are so many that I would like to understand what is happening.
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