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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Southwest Gardening
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a2b1c3
Jun 18, 2013 4:49 PM CST
i just planted a grape vine on a utility pole in my backyard. i had ment to start on roof first but the lumber failed to materialize. so instead i will start the grape now. It gives me a time limit on starting the roof.
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jun 18, 2013 8:52 PM CST
Keep posting photos as your project progresses. What type of grape did you plant?
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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Southwest Gardening
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Jun 18, 2013 9:38 PM CST
i have no idea, it was just an edible grape
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Name: Julia
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springcolor
Jun 19, 2013 10:19 AM CST
Love your brick patio. Keep us posted on this project. That grape will cover that area in no time. Thumbs up
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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Southwest Gardening
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a2b1c3
Jun 19, 2013 5:12 PM CST
ok got 80 or so feet of treated 2 x 6 the poles are sunk in dirt so 20 years tops before they start to rot through. the 2 x 6 should outlast the poles but because they are 12 foot spans i will either have to double up 2 x 6 's to make 4 x 6 or use diagonal braces.

anyone know how heavy a grape vine gets by foot?
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jun 19, 2013 7:11 PM CST
Mark, my vines are all about 30 years old and pretty thick. They are supported by 4x4 poles with 2x6 braces on either side of the poles, then with a simple ladder made of 1x2s on top of the braces. A hemlock took out one of the main support poles several years ago which we've never replaced. Other than some slight leaning, all remains pretty sturdy. To some degree, the grapes will form their own support system, and use the wood as more of a guide than an actual support. Here's a photo showing the under support and another in full on grapeness. As you can see from photo 2, that particular grape isn't even relying on the support pole to climb up (poor training on my part, but oh well).

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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Southwest Gardening
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a2b1c3
Jun 21, 2013 3:55 PM CST
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joined 4 x4's to utility pole's with 8 inch rebar pin and 4 3 inch nails tonailed
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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Southwest Gardening
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a2b1c3
Jun 21, 2013 3:59 PM CST
80 inches at bottom of headers - lowest point
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doubled up for strength
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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Southwest Gardening
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a2b1c3
Jun 21, 2013 5:40 PM CST
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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Southwest Gardening
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a2b1c3
Jun 21, 2013 6:27 PM CST
if the vines dont need much support i was thinking of using 14 gauge wire braided each run could hold 150 lb or so
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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
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a2b1c3
Jun 21, 2013 7:56 PM CST
thats it, done except the plexiglass or whatever ends up going on top and the wire for the grape, might need to rethink the fire... Thumb of 2013-06-22/a2b1c3/93b4ca
and a dog tail
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jun 22, 2013 10:39 AM CST
Nice work - that will be lovely when it is covered with grapevine, and you will be pleasantly surprised at how quickly that happens.
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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Southwest Gardening
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a2b1c3
Jun 22, 2013 4:49 PM CST
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diagonal bracing one the old fashion way the other strong tie
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Name: Jewell
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Jun 22, 2013 10:57 PM CST
Looking good!
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Jun 26, 2013 10:50 AM CST
Love the dogs tail! Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Southwest Gardening
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a2b1c3
Jun 29, 2013 12:11 PM CST
Hi , i know i said i was done save the plastic but i got to thinking and put in a center post. Advantages = i can use plywood and make a built in table, tile it with left over metro tile, and hanging plants, a plant shelf, if i do put a table there it would be easy to do a few 6 inch plant shelves near the top. and i had to put furring on the rafters 2 x 3 was the cheapist thing home depot had that had strength, they have horrible expensive 2 x 2 's there. heres some photos
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grapes grow fast, i am happy
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Jul 1, 2013 8:20 PM CST
Looks great Mark!! I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Southwest Gardening
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a2b1c3
Jul 20, 2013 5:57 PM CST
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went with metal becouse all the plastic they sell at the big box store is Thumbs down and it is expensive to get better stuff
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 20, 2013 7:05 PM CST
I see grapes!
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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
Region: United States of America Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Southwest Gardening
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a2b1c3
Aug 1, 2013 3:47 PM CST
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the grapes are getting all wilted, any ideas, i think i need to fertilize it
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