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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 22, 2013 11:30 PM CST
This echeveria is turning out to be hardy in our zone 8. It has made it through two winters out in the open, year round.
This last winter was a rather mild one, but the winter before got into the teens.
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Jun 23, 2013 1:25 AM CST

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Blue Echeveria (Echeveria secunda)

I have it scattered throughout the garden, breaking pieces off and spreading them around. I had a couple in a shadier spot and in the winter they didn't get enough sun to dry out and rotted, well, just their leaves did. They recovered and increased so nicely you can't tell they had been black mush a few months ago.
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Name: Kate
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Eviesmummy
Jun 23, 2013 2:41 AM CST

Echeveria Glauca ?? Mine was making flowers that looked just like the ones in your picture, until I got caught in it and broke them off last week.
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JRsbugs
Jun 23, 2013 4:08 AM CST
Echeveria secunda var. glauca, maybe the same thing Kate ...

http://dangergarden.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/ubc-botanical-gar...

Which is a synonym of Echeveria secunda ..

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=Echeveria+secunda+v...

Echeveria glauca is a synonym of Echeveria secunda ..

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2781157
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 23, 2013 7:56 AM CST
Hurray! Thank you Sue, Kate and Janet. Group hug

Sue what are the coldest temps you have in the winter? I bet I will have to put slug bait all around it.
I put it in an open place with good air circulation, lots of sand added to the soil, on the west side of the house. Lots of sun.
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Calif_Sue
Jun 23, 2013 9:22 AM CST

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JRsbugs said:
Echeveria glauca is a synonym of Echeveria secunda ..


Both names are noted in the ATP entry. Green Grin!

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Calif_Sue
Jun 23, 2013 9:24 AM CST

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Lynn, we get into the low 20's a few nights. I'll take a photo later of the recovered ones and add it here. I just stuck mine in the ground, no special soil and every one of them is doing fine.
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Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Jun 23, 2013 9:38 AM CST
I have a cultivar of that one called Blue Frills. It is cold hardy to 32-36 degrees.
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Calif_Sue
Jun 23, 2013 9:55 AM CST

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Here is the cluster that recovered. In the second shot you can see the old stump.

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and a few more:

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 23, 2013 2:38 PM CST
Thank you Sue for the photos. I so hope these will be happy here.

Moonhowl, what does your Blue Frills look like? We get into the low 20's during winter, some winters maybe into the teens. I figured I would just provide some kind of protection if it decides to get really cold/wet.

Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Jun 23, 2013 9:31 PM CST
These are the images in The plant database. I have only had my plant a few months, so am working on labels right now. I check out thrift stores and dollar stores for the clear plastic umbrellas...kid size, adult size or the dome shaped ones to use as mini-green houses for some of my iffy on the margin plants for frost/cold protection and also to give plants a break from the rain we often get down here. Even ones with small holes work as a strip of clear packing tape mends them.

Echeveria (Echeveria 'Blue Frills')
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 23, 2013 10:16 PM CST
Great idea Moonhowl. I'll see if I can find some to use this winter. You should submit that as an Idea. Thumbs up
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Moonhowl
Jun 24, 2013 6:55 AM CST
Thanks, Lynn...my neighbors think it odd, but my plants are happy. nodding

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 24, 2013 9:16 AM CST
Thumbs up
My mission is to find an umbrella to shelter the echie. Hurray!
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Moonhowl
Jun 24, 2013 9:25 AM CST
Thumbs up have fun
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 24, 2013 11:37 AM CST
Thank you for such a great idea. I want to find one that will fit in, in a decorative way. Group hug
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Moonhowl
Jun 24, 2013 1:44 PM CST
You can always use vinyl tape and Sharpie permanent markers to give them a bit of glam.... Green Grin!
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 24, 2013 7:08 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Another great idea. How do you come up with these? Big Grin
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Calif_Sue
Jun 24, 2013 7:21 PM CST

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Two more shots, this one is tucked between two rock steps, it was only one little rosette when I first added it. Have to watch my step now. Green Grin!

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 24, 2013 8:35 PM CST
When did you plant it Sue? Just wondering how long it will take to look like yours.

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