Daylilies forum: Is this a real daylily or a ditch lily??

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Name: Lori Morrow
Enid, OK (Zone 6b)
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enidcandles
Jun 25, 2013 9:34 AM CST
If it is a common ditch lily I got scammed again and am going to be highly ticked off! I am already mad because it is not what it is supposed to be, none of them are and the person I got them from will not respond. As a matter of fact they have disappeared from the "other site"
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And I don't like this one either!
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Name: Peggy
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hazeleyes
Jun 25, 2013 9:38 AM CST
Looks like a Kwanso

Daylily (Hemerocallis fulva 'Kwanso').

What where they suppose to be?
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Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
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Hemlady
Jun 25, 2013 10:04 AM CST
Does Kwanso have that much branching though???
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Name: Lori Morrow
Enid, OK (Zone 6b)
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enidcandles
Jun 25, 2013 10:44 AM CST
It is supposed to be Bold One
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I was trying to think of Kwanso, I have it out by my mail box with the other ditch lilies. All I could come up with was Kwanza and I knew that wasn't right. LOL

These were a trade, I send nice plants for. Oh well, that's the way it goes. It has taken 3 years to get them to bloom as they were tiny and sickly when I got them in the fist place. I will dig them up and compost them later.

Oh, the other ones is supposed to be Dainty Eyes
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I just can't wait to see what else blooms! Angry Angry
Name: Peggy
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hazeleyes
Jun 25, 2013 11:05 AM CST
I would be mad as well I was hoping some Iris Im not sure about from ebay would bloom.After I bought them I did a tineye.com search and all the photos where not thiers.
If you would have a mind at peace, a heart that cannot harden, go find a door that opens wide upon a lovely garden.
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Name: Lori Morrow
Enid, OK (Zone 6b)
I want them all!
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Daylilies Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Oklahoma
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enidcandles
Jun 25, 2013 11:39 AM CST
Sorry hazeleyes, it sucks that people just can't be honest! I am so I just expect everyone else to be also. So sad it doesn't work that way. Oh well, you live and learn.

I think instead of composting I will offer the ones I don't like for postage, maybe someone will like them.
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Jun 25, 2013 1:24 PM CST
I can't imagine what your orange double is. It just doesn't look like Kwanso to me. The other one kind of looks a bit like Elegant Candy.
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Name: Lori Morrow
Enid, OK (Zone 6b)
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enidcandles
Jun 25, 2013 1:30 PM CST
Maybe I can try to get a better pic of the double later.
Wow, the other one could be. It probably does not get enough sun where it is. Elegant Candy is much prettier than this poor pale baby. Maybe I will buy a start of EC and plant it with this one and see what happens.
Name: Jan
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philljm
Jun 25, 2013 1:40 PM CST
I have been told that there is a double ditch lily (we have some at my work) but I can't remember what the name it was called when I talked to someone about them.

Sure does look like the one I have at work.

And I agree, us honest people can sure be burned by the dishonest ones. - But I would sure rather be honest. But I would also just want to slap the dis-honest person!!!! Grumbling
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
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Hemlady
Jun 25, 2013 1:44 PM CST
There is a double called Flora Pleno, not sure if I spelled that right, could that be the one you are thinking of Jan.
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Name: Lori Morrow
Enid, OK (Zone 6b)
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enidcandles
Jun 25, 2013 2:18 PM CST
Kwanso is fulva flore pleno
Name: Peggy
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hazeleyes
Jun 25, 2013 2:21 PM CST
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/40824/

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"There is a great deal of confusion pertaining to the identification of Hemerocallis fulva 'Kwanso' and Hemerocallis fulva 'Flore Pleno'.

Basically H. fulva 'Kwanso' is a double with 12 petals and 'Flore Pleno' is a triple with 18 petals! The gardening term 'Flore Pleno' which is applied to many plants means “a flower with extra petals”. "


If you would have a mind at peace, a heart that cannot harden, go find a door that opens wide upon a lovely garden.
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Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Jun 25, 2013 2:24 PM CST
OK, learned something new!!!
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Christine27360
Jun 25, 2013 3:21 PM CST
Well let us know if you need a Bold One fan.... I know I can spare a fan or two of mine!! Thumbs up
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Name: Lori Morrow
Enid, OK (Zone 6b)
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enidcandles
Jun 25, 2013 7:15 PM CST
hazeleyes said:http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/40824/

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"There is a great deal of confusion pertaining to the identification of Hemerocallis fulva 'Kwanso' and Hemerocallis fulva 'Flore Pleno'.

Basically H. fulva 'Kwanso' is a double with 12 petals and 'Flore Pleno' is a triple with 18 petals! The gardening term 'Flore Pleno' which is applied to many plants means “a flower with extra petals”. "




Did I learn something or am I more confused? I am really not sure! I really thought they were one and the same, I guess I have been wrong all this time.
Name: Peggy
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hazeleyes
Jun 25, 2013 7:24 PM CST
Here is an older conversation about it
http://forums.tinkersgardens.com/oldforums/forum_posts.asp?T...
If you would have a mind at peace, a heart that cannot harden, go find a door that opens wide upon a lovely garden.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Missouri-Wildflowers/40601218...
Name: Lori Morrow
Enid, OK (Zone 6b)
I want them all!
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Daylilies Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Oklahoma
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enidcandles
Jun 30, 2013 10:04 AM CST
They just keep popping up! I have several clumps of them blooming now. I have finally accepted the fact that the joke is on me and laugh every time another group blooms. What else can you do? I will dig the all up and move them to a secure location where they can do no harm and let them do their thing. No reason to kill them, it is not their fault they are not the beauties they are supposed to be. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Shrug! Thumb of 2013-06-30/enidcandles/a45339
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Name: Lori Morrow
Enid, OK (Zone 6b)
I want them all!
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Daylilies Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Oklahoma
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enidcandles
Jun 30, 2013 10:05 AM CST
Thank you for the offer of the Bold One fan Christine, I think I am going to stick to Irises for now. I do really appreciate the offer though. That is very kind of you.
Name: Lori Morrow
Enid, OK (Zone 6b)
I want them all!
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Daylilies Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Oklahoma
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enidcandles
Jul 3, 2013 5:53 PM CST
Ok, thanks for the education on 'Flore Pleno' I had to study that a bit to get it through my thick head but I have got it now! And I will stop trying to make these dang flowers be something they are not and just move them somewhere safe and enjoy them for what they are.
Thank you for the education, I was really, really confused there for a bit!
Name: Theresa Maris
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tgarden711
Jul 4, 2013 2:55 PM CST
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I have the same ones and I had to move them out to the road so they wouldn't take over. I do not know what they are but they are pretty anyway and when you get flowers (like lemons to lemonade) just make bouquets.

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