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Name: tabby
denver, colorado zone 5
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tabby
Jun 25, 2013 8:43 AM CST
I wish spathufolium would reliably survive my winters.

JungleShadows said:Here is one of my favorite Sedum seedlings.

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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Jun 25, 2013 9:52 AM CST
Tabby, didn't realize it doesn't? (now I guess I have to check what its rated zone-wise) curious
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Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
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Patty
Jun 25, 2013 10:05 AM CST
The sedum is GORGEOUS! Hurray!
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Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Jun 25, 2013 10:36 AM CST
Tabby,

You might test some of the spathufloiums out as some are from rather cold areas of OR, like the Siskiyous. Clausen lost them in Ithaca NY to, but that is VERY cold there, probably Zone 4. I think they are the most beautiful of all the sedums and a treasure of our American wildflowers too.

When it stops raining I'll get photos of the other pinkish ones. I will probably put at least a couple of these on the market. Everyone that has come to the yard has enjoyed them. I am growing Helen's 'Harvest Moon' as a comparison as she thought it was the best of these.

Cool here today. Am going to make a pot of soup!

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 25, 2013 11:24 AM CST

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Tabby, I wonder if it could have anything to do with some of your other winter conditions, besides cold? Dry, windy periods, and cold?
Name: tabby
denver, colorado zone 5
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tabby
Jun 25, 2013 11:46 AM CST
It could be the exposure. We do have horrific dry wind.

I really love the look of it, but there are plenty of sedums that do great here. The older I get, the more I appreciate easy plants. Smiling
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 25, 2013 12:15 PM CST

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Easy is a very good thing as we get older.
Name: Mark
South Paris, Maine (Zone 5a)
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markb
Jun 25, 2013 12:57 PM CST
Spathufolium struggles in our winters as well. Zone 5 here. A bit sad as they are beautiful plants.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 25, 2013 1:12 PM CST

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Chris you grow them in your zone 4. How do you do it?
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Jun 25, 2013 2:29 PM CST

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They do best if I bring them into the unheated garage, but then I have to plant them in containers. At least I can still enjoy them that way.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 25, 2013 3:01 PM CST

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Ahh, so that is how you keep yours going. Thank you for the information Chris.
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Jun 25, 2013 4:17 PM CST
The unheated garage is an underrated tool of most gardeners, would you all say?
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 25, 2013 7:59 PM CST

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I agree
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Jun 26, 2013 2:12 AM CST

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I agree It tended to get a bit crowded the last few winters though. Whistling
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Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Jun 26, 2013 9:56 AM CST
All of my seedlings from various genera have "visited the garage" during our few bouts of nasty weather/

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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Jun 26, 2013 10:54 AM CST

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I feel much better now. Big Grin
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Jun 26, 2013 11:02 AM CST
Sure wish I had a garage Thumbs down Shrug! Hilarious!
Plants bring me peace and calm, more of what we all need Smiling
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 26, 2013 11:07 AM CST

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A good thing to know.
Name: Marilyn
Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b)
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CDsSister
Jun 26, 2013 11:37 AM CST
I would love to have a garage or some place to overwinter plants. I don't and I am thankful for what I do have.
Just have to learn to protect them in other ways I guess. Green Grin!

Suggestions, short of building a greenhouse would be appreciated

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Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Jun 26, 2013 6:29 PM CST
CD,

One thing that the English do over rare clones is to place a pane of glass. That serves two purposes. The plants are warmed under the glass (like a mini cold greenhouse) and it also protects them from two much wet weather. Some of the semps from the far eastern part of the range (Turkey and Armenia) don't like the winter wet too well and will survive better under the glass. I'm betting the spathulifoliums would be similarly happy.

Kevin

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