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Oct 14, 2010 6:29 AM CST
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Name: Plants and Plumerias
American South (Zone 7b)
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Since I am new to this, is it possible to submit a photo for ID reasons?
Thank you,
Kevin 51

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Oct 14, 2010 8:19 AM CST
Name: Red
Knoxville, TN
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Absolutely! When you make a post, you can add a photo in using the "Upload an image" button at the bottom left of the box. The picture will appear in your post.
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Oct 14, 2010 11:49 AM CST
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Name: Plants and Plumerias
American South (Zone 7b)
I'm on a down hill slide to middle
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Hummingbirder Dog Lover Container Gardener Cat Lover Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Thank you Knoxred kevin51

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Mar 10, 2011 9:57 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Hi Red. I can't upload the photo because it's not mine. But here is a link. I would love to know what this plant is so I can find one to buy. http://cubits.org/pics/2011-03...

Also this one http://cubits.org/pics/2011-03...

I've never seen anything like these two plants. Sure hope you can help me.
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Mar 12, 2011 6:17 AM CST
Name: Red
Knoxville, TN
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I'll be out on site again today. I'll try to work on the IDs tonight, but they do seem to be unusual plants. Not ringing any bells at the moment.
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Mar 12, 2011 7:59 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Thank you so much Red, I appreciate it.
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Mar 13, 2011 8:47 AM CST
Name: Red
Knoxville, TN
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On the first one, my best guess is some kind of gasteria hybrid, perhaps a gasterworthia or gasteraloe. I'm finding it hard to match up the tiny,spotted, toothed rosettes and the bloom stalk into one definitive plant category.
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Mar 13, 2011 9:25 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I think you are correct about it being a gasteria hybrid. Now that you pointed me in the correct directions and I have been looking at photos, I find plants that look very similar but the flowers type does not match up. Hmmmmm
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Mar 15, 2011 8:25 AM CST
Name: Red
Knoxville, TN
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Still thinking about plant #2. The overall effect makes me think Saxifragaceae family. The foliage appears slightly "fleshy", and the mat of basal foliage with flowers held above on thin,red, leafless stems just suggests Saxifragaceae to me. Will keep noodling on it.
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Mar 15, 2011 1:44 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I never realized the Saxifragaceae family was such a large family. I have S. 'London Pride' and another NOID that is similar without the variegation. After researching your thought on ID if found that there is such a huge variance on leaves, flowers and growth pattern. How amazing.
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Mar 19, 2011 2:32 PM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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Noodling around over here. #2 definitely looks like saxifrage ... pretty sure. Thumbs up
I garden for the pollinators.
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Jun 10, 2011 4:00 PM CST
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Name: Plants and Plumerias
American South (Zone 7b)
I'm on a down hill slide to middle
Charter ATP Member Birds Tropicals Seed Starter Orchids Region: Mississippi
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Might some one be so kind as to id the following plants for me. I live in N.E. MS just 3 miles from the MS/AL state line.
They are:.
Thumb of 2011-06-10/kevin51/f40dda I've never even seen this plant before.


Thumb of 2011-06-10/kevin51/9b06d5 Sorry, not a good pic. of the up close leaves. Sorry.

Thumb of 2011-06-10/kevin51/ecfb42 Absolutely NO idea. This is one I've not noticed in my treks into the woods.

Thank you for your help. I'll be much obliged.
Lee

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Jun 11, 2011 5:20 AM CST
Name: Red
Knoxville, TN
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Hi, Lee. At first glance, #3 looks like Cornus alternifolia. I'll have a closer look at the photos tonight - I have to get some landscaping hours in early in the morning before it's blazing out there! It's been in the mid 90's every day for about 2 weeks now.
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Jun 11, 2011 7:18 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Plants and Plumerias
American South (Zone 7b)
I'm on a down hill slide to middle
Charter ATP Member Birds Tropicals Seed Starter Orchids Region: Mississippi
Hummingbirder Dog Lover Container Gardener Cat Lover Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Hey Red, Thank your for taking the time to help me. I'm in no hurry, just curious. Take your time and be careful and hydrate well. If I don't hear from you later in the day, I'll fret.
Again Thanks, Lee

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Jun 12, 2011 11:53 AM CST
Name: Red
Knoxville, TN
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Seed Starter Container Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Ferns Irises Bulbs
I'm always glad to help. I was just too pooped to get online last night! My reading/posting may be falling behind, but at least I'm sleeping well. Hilarious!

Worked another four hours this morning. The progress is satisfying, but it's draining to work in this heat. Have to make some time today to do some laundry and hit the grocery store. I'm going through water and Gatorade like crazy!

#1 is likely an ash seedling. Oval, entire, opposite leaves, in groups of 7 leaflets.

For #2, it's hard to tell without a branch/leaf closeup. I think I detect slightly serrated leaf edges, but can't tell if the arrangement is alternate or opposite.
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Jun 12, 2011 2:03 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Plants and Plumerias
American South (Zone 7b)
I'm on a down hill slide to middle
Charter ATP Member Birds Tropicals Seed Starter Orchids Region: Mississippi
Hummingbirder Dog Lover Container Gardener Cat Lover Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Red, I know you are worn out but I do appreciate your helping me. I'll go out soon and get a closer pic of #2 for you.
Your help is beyond words.
It's been a fantasy of mine to have a botanist come up, maybe from MS State, and make ID's for me. My vision isn't the greatest in the world since I had to stop wearing my contacts.
If I'm not bitten by a rattler or copperhead, I'll be back in a little while and post the pics.
Too, I'll get a better pic. of #3, too.
Lee

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Jun 12, 2011 2:57 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Plants and Plumerias
American South (Zone 7b)
I'm on a down hill slide to middle
Charter ATP Member Birds Tropicals Seed Starter Orchids Region: Mississippi
Hummingbirder Dog Lover Container Gardener Cat Lover Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Hey Red, I went back into the woods and got these. When and if you have time, might you help me with some?
Thanks, Lee
Thumb of 2011-06-12/kevin51/53d6ea Is this a Mulberry?

Thumb of 2011-06-12/kevin51/60a6de No idea of what this is.
Thumb of 2011-06-12/kevin51/54526e I think this is that horrid Smilax.
Thumb of 2011-06-12/kevin51/5738f0 No idea of this either.
Thumb of 2011-06-12/kevin51/763a32 Is this the one you said might be a Cornus?
Thumb of 2011-06-12/kevin51/47039f Don't know but it's growing from underneath a shed.

Thumb of 2011-06-12/kevin51/0c7657 Lavender 'Provencal'

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Jun 12, 2011 3:37 PM CST
Name: Red
Knoxville, TN
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Wow! What a difference in the definitely-not-a-cornus pic! Let's try Southern catalpa on for size.

Yes on the mulberry. And the smilax.
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Jun 12, 2011 4:04 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Plants and Plumerias
American South (Zone 7b)
I'm on a down hill slide to middle
Charter ATP Member Birds Tropicals Seed Starter Orchids Region: Mississippi
Hummingbirder Dog Lover Container Gardener Cat Lover Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Thanks Red. Will try that on for size. Will go to the USDA and see what I can find out. You've been both kind and helpful and I appreciate that and I never forget a kindness shown me.
I so hate Smilax. It climbs everything, has thorns and has something that looks almost like a giant tuber. The are all around here.
I hope I can return a favor should you need one.
Lee

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Jun 28, 2011 4:30 PM CST
Name: Red
Knoxville, TN
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I'm back in town and frantically trying to catch up on everything. (You'll like the photos of the garden I visited, but I haven't had time to load them up yet.)

I've been thinking about your under-the-shed tree, and I'm now leaning towards sourwood. I was originally looking for something with alternate leaf arrangement with an entire margin, but nothing matched the size and shape of the leaves and overall habit. It's possible the slight rippling on the leaf margins is actually masking a fine serration. Take a close look at one of the leaves and see if it is serrated. Compare to photos of sourwood -Oxydendron arboreum. Persimmon is another possibility.

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