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Jul 22, 2013 10:28 AM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
I took a photo of this plant which I will post soon. It has been in my garden for a long time and I always thought it was American Indian. A couple years ago it got divided and moved and it seems to have really taken off! I never realized it had so many branches and buds and was so tall. It is also very tall, about 48". Anyways, it doesn't look like any of the official pictures for American Indian. At first I thought it was one of the newer tall spiders that I have been collecting, but I have too many large clumps of it for it to be anything but one of my oldest cultivars. (I always thought of it as the green center not Autumn Red.) Anyone else grow this?
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Jul 22, 2013 2:47 PM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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I am pretty sure I have a pic of it somewhere. I will hunt for it and post it if I find it.
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Jul 22, 2013 3:09 PM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Sorry but I couldn't find it. I thought sure I had a pic of it.
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Aug 15, 2013 5:22 AM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/c...

Here is a picture of it. Sorry, I don't have my card in the computer now to upload directly. My flickr site has more garden pics, and also some of my artwork, if anyone is interested.

The dark spider behind it is Brown Witch.
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Aug 15, 2013 6:20 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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That doesn't look like my American Indian. Mine is a dark bright orange.
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Aug 15, 2013 6:21 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Check the plant database. There is a pic of it there and it is indeed orange.
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Aug 15, 2013 7:01 AM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
Well that's the mystery! Actually I bought another American Indian so I could check and see if it was like the first one, and it was the same. Different soil maybe???
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Aug 15, 2013 7:04 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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I really think that is way too much of a color difference to be soil related. They evidently sold you the wrong plant.
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Aug 15, 2013 11:15 AM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
But two different sources? Unless the second source got it from the same first source I did! Which was Wild's. Definately some room for mis-identification there...I really like whatever it is that I have, just that curiosity thing, ya' know?
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Aug 15, 2013 3:22 PM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Irises Butterflies Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Yes, I would be curious too. I believe I ordered mine from Wild's also but many, many years ago.
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Aug 15, 2013 3:50 PM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
I am going to try to find someone who sells it now.
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Aug 15, 2013 5:34 PM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
The only place I could find on google that sells it is Wright's Daylilies, and they have your orange one. Guess mine is just misidentified, but I like mine better what ever it is!
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Aug 16, 2013 4:55 PM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
I think it is "Purple Waters" a historic by Russell.

The link above shows several images of it from davesgarden.

It is in the data base here also. One mystery solved!
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Aug 17, 2013 5:30 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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I think you are right!!!
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Aug 18, 2013 6:36 AM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
I will follow the advice given here to buy a named one and compare it.
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