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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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JB
Jul 26, 2013 1:07 PM CST
My friend ask me to put this up for her. She said it is a begonia but would like to know what kind it is. Thank you in advance.

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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jul 26, 2013 3:16 PM CST
It's a beauty whatever it is!

It could be one of the Begonia × ricinifolia hybrids ..

http://www.peacetreefarm.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/plants.pla...

http://hortiplex.gardenweb.com/plants/jour/p/65/gw1043665/pa...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alancarl/2799215713/




Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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JB
Jul 26, 2013 4:10 PM CST
It does resemble the pictures. I wonder if this plant can live a very long life? Do you know? The owner said it is about 50 years old. That seems unreal to me but what do I know?
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jul 26, 2013 4:43 PM CST
If it's 50 years old then yes it can live a very long life!

It seems unreal to me too, but I don't know either. Hilarious! I guess as it's rhizomatous the chances are it will survive better than tuberous, although it would have to be well looked after.

I found one 38 years old, must be a toughie.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/begonia/msg061540542...

It's been around a long time!

http://en.hortipedia.com/wiki/Begonia_x_ricinifolia

Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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JB
Jul 27, 2013 7:18 AM CST
You have been a great help. I have printed out all the links you gave me with the exception of the one and that would not print the great photo and the comments were not in English, so I just gave up. Big Grin
I will give them all to her next week when I see her. I do think by the looks of the pictures her plant must be a Begonia ricinflolia. If not, no one will ever know the difference. Rolling on the floor laughing They are just not plant people but they love this plant because it takes very little care. <sigh> Thanks again for all your help. I love ATP because of times like this, when you have a question, there is always someone who has an answer. Group hug
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jul 27, 2013 7:31 AM CST
Glad to have been of help. Smiling

I have never actually come across the plant before! Hilarious! I could do with one though. Green Grin!
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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JB
Jul 28, 2013 2:07 PM CST
I can ask her for a cutting but I can not guarantee anything. Shrug!
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JRsbugs
Jul 28, 2013 2:28 PM CST
Thank you Jacquie, but it wouldn't be fair as it doesn't look to be a huge plant and posting it here might be difficult. I might come across one sometime. Smiling
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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JB
Jul 28, 2013 3:20 PM CST
I agree
Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Jul 29, 2013 9:11 AM CST
What a coincidence Jacquie! I had been planning for long to post mine here asking for confirmation as I had found its ID on the web.
Begonia ricinifolia was what I came upon.

I got it in a strange way..a bit more than a year ago in the middle of June I visited a second hand shop in town and my eye fell on a Begonia on the window sill, that looked old and neglected, nevertheless it was love on first sight. The gorgeous red scales on its leaf stems, the vibrant green of the leaves and the very pretty gracious pink flowers. I HAD to have the plant! Hilarious!
I kindly asked the unfriendly looking saleswoman if I could buy it, nope she said with a stern face, it is property of the shop. OK I said, but then can I just have one leaf pleaaaase? Another irritated nope! I managed to get out the shop without giving in to my intention to sneakily steal a leaf when she turned her back! Rolling on the floor laughing

It didn't let me lose though, I had to have that plant! I knew there were several people working in that shop and with some luck it would be some else on another day. And yes, it was some else, a friendly one this time! When I kindly asked again for a leaf she smiled and said of course! Hurray!

So I quickly rushed home with my precious treasure, I had taken a medium sized leaf with stem, I put it in a small vase with water. It really took a long time, about a month and a half, before it made its first tiny roots. When these were around 2 cm long I potted it up.

After a long time, last winter inside the house, I saw a tiny leaf appearing at the base of the leaf stem..

From then on it grew at a rather fast rate and I now am the proud owner of a beautiful and very healthy plant! nodding

Janet, it made a baby so I potted that up for you if you like.. Smiling

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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jul 29, 2013 10:14 AM CST
Oh what a coincidence Myriam! Providence has come into play, oh yes pleeease I would love your baby plant! Green Grin!

It's grown very well in a short space of time too! A lovely story of your perseverance to have this lovely plant. Lovey dubby
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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JB
Jul 29, 2013 2:11 PM CST
Hurray! Hurray! Lovey dubby WONDERFUL!
Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Jul 30, 2013 7:11 AM CST
Thanks Janet and Jacquie! Smiling

Name: Greene
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greene
Jul 30, 2013 7:50 AM CST
...and they lived happily ever after.
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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JB
Jul 30, 2013 8:26 AM CST
Mary,, don't you want to join in on this love fest? We are just having a great time over one little begonia. Rolling on the floor laughing

Seriously, ATP is a wonderful place to find great people and most of the answers to questions and enjoy yourself in the process. We are so fortunate to be here.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Jul 30, 2013 9:00 AM CST

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That's a lovely story Myriam. They have what may be the same or related plant at the Lyman glass house at Smith College. I was tempted to snip as well.
Evan
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jul 30, 2013 11:29 AM CST
Begonia 'Immense' is a named variety of Begonia ricinifolia Kent, possibly a good selection. I linked to one above ..

http://www.peacetreefarm.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/plants.pla...

There's another called Begonia manicata which is a little different ..

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Begonia_manicata_Bron...

There's a list of other hybrids crossed with B. x ricinifolia which I just found ..

http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/Begonias/message/2782

The clue to being a 'variety' is probably given in " 'Fred Moore' ('Ricinifolia ' v. 'Immense' x 'Leo Rowan')'

B. x ricinifolia is a cross between B. heracleifolia and B. peponifolia ..

http://bdei2.cs.umb.edu:8080/efg2/Redirect.jsp?displayFormat...

So, if there is another cross involved and the name is not know then B. x ricinifolia might still cover it.

This list of named Begonias gives their parentage, it might be useful!

http://www.begoniahouston.org/halpha/hybrid_qr.htm





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Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Jul 31, 2013 1:05 AM CST
No wonder you were tempted too to snip of a leaf Evan! Whistling

That is a lot of valuable info Janet! Thanks for your research work! Smiling
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jul 31, 2013 3:48 AM CST
I tip my hat to you. Green Grin!
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Jul 31, 2013 10:33 AM CST

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bonitin said:That is a lot of valuable info Janet! Thanks for your research work! Smiling

I agree

Apparently the ICRA granted cultivar status to x ricinifolia sometime in the past but I cant find any discussions about that. Is there a common name for the rhizomatous begonias?
Evan

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