Clematis forum: Wintering clematis in pots

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JuliaJayne
Feb 3, 2010 11:30 AM CST
For reasons I won't bore you with, I was unable to plant at least a dozen clematis. Those that I purchased locally are buried in nursery pots in a raised bed. We started off winter with a great snow cover that is mostly still on the garden. For those of you who don't live in the north, good drainage and an early cover of snow gives your garden plants the best chance for surviving the long cold winter. I topped off the area with compost, some bark fines, and enclosed the bed with wire mesh to keep the dogs off the bed. I think I cut out the bottoms of the pots as well.

Five of the clematis I got through mail order are in the garage, plus a patio clem that has been in a large pot. I controlled the water in the pots hoping get that right balance of "just enough" moisture that they could survive winter in the unheated garage.

I'm sure the clematis in the raised bed will be fine. I am worried about the clematis in the garage. Others had successes and failures with potted plants in the garage, including clematis. Winter is far from over, so the clematis will probably need to stay put for another 6 weeks. After that, I will put them in a shady spot so they start thawing slowly and at the same time as the rest of the garden.

So, this is like an experiment, I suppose. Not intentional, but I will learn from it, I'm sure. Maybe I'll even learn to not buy so many clematis if I ever find myself in a similar situation that I was in last year.
Name: DawnLL
Ontario
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DawnLL
Feb 3, 2010 7:07 PM CST
I can't imagine it will be easy NOT to find yourself in this position again. Clematis are so addictive. I hope you experimenting works out for you.
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JuliaJayne
Feb 3, 2010 7:22 PM CST
How are you surviving winter? Are you making plans to add more this year?

Name: Kay
Lincoln, Nebraska
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chickadee
Feb 4, 2010 12:14 PM CST
Hello! I have had success overwintering a jackmanii in my garage. I put the pot on some 2x4s so it wasn't on the concrete, came through great.
I'm putting up a photo of a white spring bloomer. Anyone know it's name? :wink:

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Name: Evey Blalock
South Louisiana - Zone 8b/9a (Zone 8b)
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BlissfulGarden
Feb 4, 2010 12:18 PM CST
Chickadee, how tall does your plant get, and how long has it been planted? I have a few ideas what it might be. My first guess would be Henryi... a very popular clematis that's been around a very long time.
~Evey =)

"Grow where you are planted." - My gpa
Name: Kay
Lincoln, Nebraska
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chickadee
Feb 4, 2010 5:05 PM CST
Well, its on the trellis and kind of grows up and over that, so I'd guess it gets about 10 feet... I planted it in the spring of 2008, and this photo is from spring 2009.
Thanks
Name: Louise, Weeze
Jersey shore
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venu209
Feb 4, 2010 5:23 PM CST
I agree My guess would be Henryi also. If the bars have a green cast to them, it might be Miss Bateman. Very pretty clem, Kay!
Name: Evey Blalock
South Louisiana - Zone 8b/9a (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Dog Lover Ponds Herbs Garden Art
Daylilies Irises Clematis Roses Region: Louisiana
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BlissfulGarden
Feb 4, 2010 5:38 PM CST
BTW, JuliaJayne, I didn't mean to ignore your original question. Being in the South, I haven't had much experience with harsh winters... until this one. I actually have quite a few clematis of my own that didn't make it into the garden before the hard freezes hit us, so you and I are in this experiment together, to so to speak! Mine greened up during the interluding warm weather and one even set buds. Tough little guys, these clematis. I think you are on the right track... providing just enough moisture to keep them viable without rotting the roots.

Perhaps Louise (Venu209) or Arlene (Pirl) can offer better feedback on this topic. They both garden in cold winter environments.
~Evey =)

"Grow where you are planted." - My gpa
Name: DawnLL
Ontario
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DawnLL
Feb 4, 2010 8:28 PM CST
First off chickadee your photo is just so pretty!

Julia so far our winter has been pretty mild. Can't complain...our weather has been above average.

I don't plan on planting too many more. I did start some from seed this year so I will be sure to add one new addition. The others I will give to friends.
Name: Sherry Brower
Troy, NY
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bookreader451
Feb 4, 2010 8:58 PM CST
I think that they should be fine in the garage. Most clematis are hardy to zone 4 and I can't imagine it would get colder than that in the garage.

Spring is just around the corner!
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JuliaJayne
Feb 5, 2010 5:54 AM CST
Hey Evey, I didn't have a question. I was just worrying out loud ;)
Name: Kay
Lincoln, Nebraska
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chickadee
Feb 5, 2010 5:17 PM CST
I like that, worrying out loud! What gardener hasn't done that ?
Thanks for the comments, fellow clematis fans! I think I may get a taller trellis and add a summer bloomer to keep the color all season.
Name: Teri
Mount Bethel, PA
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Roses_R_Red
Feb 18, 2010 3:24 PM CST
I put a small clematis in a pot when it arrived this fall and planted ice plant in the same pot. The ice plant is doing very well, but the clematis grows a leaf or 2, then the leaves dry out and drop off, then another leaf appears and the same thing happens. Should it be in the garage dormant, or can I keep trying to get it going inside? It's a Kiri Te Kanawa.
Name: John Dyer
Louisville , Ky
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oldherbacious
Feb 20, 2010 7:36 PM CST
Well, I'm right there worrying with you all. I started some 100 or so clems from seed a year ago and planted the seedlings along the fence. 1 of them bloomed last year and it was wonderful.. I was out in the garden today . There were some patches where the snow had melted away . There was only one seedling visible....The rest may be under the mulch , or they may be dead. I doubt that they have established enough roots to survive under ground. So i wait and I hope.




Name: Evey Blalock
South Louisiana - Zone 8b/9a (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Dog Lover Ponds Herbs Garden Art
Daylilies Irises Clematis Roses Region: Louisiana
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BlissfulGarden
Feb 20, 2010 11:37 PM CST
John, some will make it, I'm sure. If clematis didn't have the will to survive, then none of the varieties would self-propagate in nature!

Teri, do you have a photo of what your leaves are doing? How long is the clematis vine and does it seem healthy? Also, what type of lighting and humidity conditions do you have? Is your plant directly under a vent by any chance? I've started some clones indoors that did well, but they were just experimental while I got the hang of my nifty new cloner! I didn't keep them inside longterm under growing lights but moved them outdoors in liners. All of my frozen babies seem to be putting out tiny sprouts now that the weather is warmer (though it will get cold again soon). It would really help to see a photo and/or get a better description your plant as a whole and it's environment.
~Evey =)

"Grow where you are planted." - My gpa
Name: Teri
Mount Bethel, PA
Charter ATP Member Region: Pennsylvania Hibiscus Container Gardener Clematis Region: Northeast US
Annuals Echinacea Winter Sowing Seed Starter Lilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Roses_R_Red
Feb 21, 2010 6:21 AM CST
Evey,

The baby delosperma and the baby clematis were put in this pot on a sunny windowsill at the same time.

The clematis leaves die back almost as soon as they grow a little.

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Name: John Dyer
Louisville , Ky
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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oldherbacious
Feb 22, 2010 1:35 PM CST
Evey would you picture your cloner.
Name: Evey Blalock
South Louisiana - Zone 8b/9a (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Dog Lover Ponds Herbs Garden Art
Daylilies Irises Clematis Roses Region: Louisiana
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BlissfulGarden
Feb 22, 2010 1:46 PM CST
John, I can do better than just a picture for you! Here's a link to the video I used to make the cloner. Sure To Grow gave me permission to repost their video on my site. =)

http://simplyclems.com/cloning.htm

I tried a more expensive cloner too, but I found that this homemade one with the STG clippers was superior in performance. Sometimes the more expensive choice really is not the best one!

Teri, your clem definitely looks like it is sick... and not just a lighting issue. The tip dieback below the leaves has me worried. I'm researching a little more for you before I give my "diagnosis" and suggested treatment. When you've cut back the affected areas, does the clem send up a new shoot or does it continue to grow on the affected one?
~Evey =)

"Grow where you are planted." - My gpa
Name: Teri
Mount Bethel, PA
Charter ATP Member Region: Pennsylvania Hibiscus Container Gardener Clematis Region: Northeast US
Annuals Echinacea Winter Sowing Seed Starter Lilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Roses_R_Red
Feb 22, 2010 2:15 PM CST
I will cut off the affected area again and let you know.
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JuliaJayne
Apr 11, 2010 8:58 AM CST
I am happy to report that all the potted clematis in the garage survived winter. I should add that all the clematis in pots that were plunked into the vegetable beds survived as well. Actually, I think every clematis in the garden survived again this year.

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