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Aug 5, 2013 1:19 PM CST
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Name: Rita
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Thanks Arlene. I will star this recommendation for growing next year. This springs bush bean of one called Tenderette I didn't much like.
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Aug 5, 2013 2:51 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Well, sprayed all my zucchini and Squash with the Neem Oil again. Just finished. It is cool today, not even 80 so I was able to do the spraying much earlier in the day than I do in the hot summer weather. If it's hot, I wait till the sun starts going down.

I have to do this to keep up with the Powdery Mildew problems. Gosh these darn summer squashes are so prone to getting mildew. Even the young replacement plants I have coming along are already getting some mildew. I can't image what the plants would be like if I didn't spray.

Plus the mildew control, the Neem is also good to kill any pest eggs that might be laid on the plants. I am hoping SVB season is over but you never know.

The big zucchini plants (Cavelli and Elite) are looking pretty ratty. The Golden Egg Summer squash not as ratty. I have those Caserta plants that are showing small will be flower buds and will be zucs. And the Green Tiger started later is getting some size on the plants. So squash and zucchini season is not over around here.

Not even 5 PM and I actually got all my planned garden work done today. What a shocker!
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Aug 5, 2013 2:53 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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Hurray! job well done, Rita!
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Aug 5, 2013 2:58 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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abhege said: Hurray! job well done, Rita!


I started with the seed planting to make sure I got that done. Then I picked veggies and after that I watered the pot ghetto. Then I sprayed with Neem. Hurray. Everything on the urgent list done.
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Aug 5, 2013 3:05 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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I sat inside all day holding a colicky 7 week old. Poor little guy! Thursday I can garden. Of course, by then it is supposed to rain Green Grin!
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Aug 5, 2013 3:08 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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I bet you can't wait until the baby gets old enough to go out in the garden with you.
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Aug 5, 2013 3:12 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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Heh, heh, how'd you guess? His mother already knows that too!
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Aug 5, 2013 3:16 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Hilarious! Hilarious! You need to teach him to garden pronto! Hilarious!
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Aug 5, 2013 3:48 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 5, 2013 3:50 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Tomato taste challenge!

4 tomatoes competed. All four varieties new to me this year.
Jet Star
Big Beef
Supersonic
Rutgers

None compared to my three favorites from last year which are Big Boy, Better Boy and Beefmaster. So those favorites from last year not about to be knocked off the top of the list.

Favorite of the four, Rutgers with a very nice taste. Worse Jet Star which I would rather not be eating. Supersonic came in second and Big Beef third. Right now I am questioning if any of these will be brought back next season. The jury is still out as there are a lot of tomatoes still to be eaten. I usually do my taste challenges and then a while later do it again to check taste. Just to be sure.
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Aug 5, 2013 3:55 PM CST
Name: Arlene
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Rita, so you like a bit of an acidic tomato? Big beef was a good tomato as far as production and customers loved it because it is a bit on the sweet side. Last year we grew Better Boy which is a bitmore acidic as well as Bolseno, vey good tomato!

Rutgers is okay. Limbaugh's Legacy is a good heirloom, not sweet. Want me to send you a couple seeds to start? Green Grin!
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Aug 5, 2013 4:12 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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This was based on taste only, not on production or disease resistance or anything else. My very favorite tomato I have ever grown and my favorite and the one to pick to eat over ANY tomato I have ever tried is Big Boy. I have tried heirlooms including Brandywine and Cherokee Purple. Big Boy tastes better to me. Better Boy tastes similar and almost as good. On any given day depending on the tomato actually chosen they might switch places.

Beefmaster is one I tried for the first time last year. LOVED them.

Then on another forum I read peoples recommendations for great tasting red hybrid tomatoes. Big Beef, Rutgers and Jet Star were all mentioned many times. Supersonic, I bought because it looked good from the description at the Nursery when I was buying tomatoes.

Thank you for the offer of seeds. But I have so many tomato seeds from last year. Maybe I can actually get some going this winter.
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Aug 5, 2013 5:28 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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We'll egg you -- er, encourage you this winter to start those seeds! You do have quite a few varieties of seeds. Just an FYI, I was not happy with the dwarfs at all. The foliage is so dense it's hard to pinch or even see fruit. Not good especially for a wet year. And I wasn't impressed with any of the fruit. Small...
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Aug 5, 2013 5:43 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Humm, seems to be a difference of opinion from reviews I have read on those Dwarf Project tomatoes. Mostly people raved about them. We will see if I start those or not. I am thinking more in line of starting regular sized tomatoes. But I will probably need a good kick in the butt come mid winter to get motivated to start seeds. I don't think of planting while the snow flys and the weather is so cold. Rolling on the floor laughing

As far as varieties of tomatoes that I choose to bring back year after year, production definitely comes into the mix. Just that when I do the tastes tests I don't worry about those factors, Just judge on taste.

Production and other factors are very important to me. The best tasting tomato in the world that only puts out a few tomatoes will not be growing in my garden. And ones that are overly prone to crack and spit also will not be grown.

We both need production. Arlene, you need tomatoes for market, I need to have lots of nice looking undamaged fruit to give away.
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Aug 5, 2013 5:48 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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We started out with mostly all heirlooms but I have moved more to hybrids. Less cracking, more productive. I have to do some heirlooms since a lot of people want them but at least most people just want a good, red, ripe, tasty tomato!!! I may try Big Boy this year. But Better Boy for sure!

Now, possibly the grafted tomatoes would do better for the heirlooms. I don't know. Would have to explore that.
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Aug 6, 2013 9:42 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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On the tomatoes, I have them in various tomato beds. I have one bed that has the 4 types I was talking about. The Rutgers, Supersonic, Big Beef and the Jet Star. So I have been picking tomatoes but by the time I bring them inside I have all the varieties all mixed up so I don't know what is what. On eating them, I knew there was one of the 4 I liked a lot and one of the 4 that I just hated. I always knew when I ate one of those tomatoes but of course I didn't which it was. Now I do. On the 4 the Rutgers was hands on an easy winner. Easily the best tasting to me. The Jet Star easily the worst. Not needing to think about it, it was the worst. The other two might switch around as it was a close call as to how to rate them.

I judged tomatoes by taste last year also. Last years loosers were all judged not to be brought back this year because to me they tasted bland. So I tried these 4 new to me ones instead. I picked them because on another forum (Garden Web) these were repeated mentioned when the question of good tasting red hybrid tomatoes came up.

I see why these were all mentioned as someones favorite. They all have strong flavor in the sense than none of the four are bland tasting. As long as a tomato is not bland then which taste one likes best is rather subjective.
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Aug 6, 2013 10:44 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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abhege said:We'll egg you -- er, encourage you this winter to start those seeds! You do have quite a few varieties of seeds. Just an FYI, I was not happy with the dwarfs at all. The foliage is so dense it's hard to pinch or even see fruit. Not good especially for a wet year. And I wasn't impressed with any of the fruit. Small...


Here are the Dwarf project seeds that I have-
Iditarod Red
Tasmanian Chocolate
Summertime Gold
Rosella Purple
Perth Pride
Dwarf Mr Snow


Not sure what I might or might do about them.
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Aug 6, 2013 10:55 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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And here are other tomato seeds for regular tomatoes. I have-
Amazon Chocolate
Money Maker
Market Wonder
Cowlick Brandywine
Purple Dog Creek

Last two from Blue Ribbon Tomato Seeds off E-Bay and two before that from GourmetSeed.

Lastly I found a fabulous place out in California called Wild Boar Farms that hybridizes their own tomatoes.

Wild Boar Farms-
http://www.wildboarfarms.com/

I have seeds of a bunch of their intros also. I have-
Black & Brown Boar
Pink Berkley Tie Dye
Pink Boar
Red Boar
Sweet Carnaros Pink
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Aug 6, 2013 4:02 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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Newyorkrita said:Here is my list of melons I picked out from Park Seeds.
Melemon Melon
Dove Hybrid Melon
French Orange Hybrid Melon
Lambkin Melon
Inspire Hybrid Cantaloupe

I really can't wait to try them all! Smiling


My seeds from Parks came. Besides my list of melons, which I will be planting next year, I got this really adorable squash called Poquito. Looks like a tiny watermelon! Hilarious!

http://parkseed.com/squash-pic...
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Aug 6, 2013 4:52 PM CST
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Finally!...here come the tomatoes.

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