Gardening for Butterflies, Birds and Bees forum: Which milkweed is best for SE United States and where can I find the plants?

Page 1 of 2 • 1 2
Views: 1093, Replies: 20 » Jump to the end
Name: Dave
Dayton, TN (Zone 7a)
Blessed beyond all merit.
Lilies Birds Native Plants and Wildflowers Dog Lover Container Gardener Butterflies
Hummingbirder Tropicals Cottage Gardener Foliage Fan Aroids Garden Ideas: Level 1
Image
TennesseeDave
Aug 7, 2013 6:38 PM CST
Well this forum has officially turned on my interest in butterflies to a burning desire to plant an area specifically to aid in their well being. I even joined the North American Butterfly Association and the local chapter here in the Tennessee Valley. From what I have been able to understand from some research is that the milkweed is vital as both host and nectar plants. I have a well planted yard with butterfly bushes, Joe pye, coneflowers, etc but want to incorporate some milkweed. A. tuberosa can be seen earlier in the year in fields and along the roadway so digging a few of those is possible if one is familiar enough with what the plant looks like when not in bloom. At the present time I am not. It would be my luck to think I am planting milkweed and in fact plant "wacky" weed. Is there a good source of milkweed available from any online vendors? Will the plants bloom the first year if started from seed or should I try to find plugs? I need some education and appreciate all input.
Name: Tiffany
Opp, AL (Zone 8b)
Houseplants Organic Gardener Composter Region: Gulf Coast Miniature Gardening Native Plants and Wildflowers
Bulbs Foliage Fan Tropicals Butterflies Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents
Image
purpleinopp
Aug 8, 2013 9:09 AM CST
Where you are, you should be able to grow A. tuberosa, A. incarnata, A. syriaca. When I lived in OH, I found plants at stores occasionally but haven't seen any since moving to AL. AFAIK, all are easy to grow from seeds found at the right time, if you like to do that kind of thing. Many people save them to share for the cost of postage, you may want to investigate that.

The blooms aren't important as far as being a host plant. It sounds like you have other nectar plants to satisfy that requirement, so even if your Asclepias didn't bloom the first year, caterpillars could still munch on it. Depending on how many caterpillars you get, one or two big host plants in the midst of many other nectar-producing plants should be sufficient. I don't know how big of a garden you're talking about, but the ratio of one host plant to 15-20 nectar plants (depending on size,) should be a good basic guide. You'll get a feel for it as you go along.

Some annuals (where you are) that make great nectar plants... Coleus, Basil, Pentas, Zinnias, Lantana (some might be hardy where you are.)
๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‚ - SMILE! -โ˜บ๐Ÿ˜Žโ˜ปโ˜ฎ๐Ÿ‘ŒโœŒโˆžโ˜ฏ๐Ÿฃ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿพ
๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ‘’โ˜€๐Ÿ„๐Ÿ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฟ๐ŸŒด๐ŸŽ„๐Ÿ‘ฃ๐ŸŒต๐ŸŒทโš˜๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒฝ๐Ÿก๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿ‚๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿโฆโง ๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ‚๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒธ๐ŸŒผ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒณ๐ŸŒฒ
โ˜•๐Ÿ‘“ The only way to succeed is to try.
Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Salvias Herbs Bluebonnets Native Plants and Wildflowers Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Forum moderator Purslane Hummingbirder Cat Lover Butterflies Birds
Image
LindaTX8
Aug 10, 2013 6:44 PM CST
Dave, I appreciate what you're trying to do for the butterflies. Milkweeds in general are notoriously hard to transplant from the wild. The taproots are usually deep. We don't have A. tuberosa growing around here, but I've read can be hard to transplant. If you try it, wait until the weather is cool, find smaller plants and dig deep enough to get enough of the roots. Get it into a pot and watered right away. Shade helps until it recovers. We have one species of milkweed here that isn't very hard to move, but that's not the norm for the species. We're hoping for the best for the Monarchs (and the Queens also), but things are not going well for them.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
Name: Tara
NE, Florida (Zone 9a)
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Organic Gardener Garden Sages Birds Frogs and Toads Plant Identifier
Dragonflies Butterflies Hummingbirder Orchids Container Gardener Garden Procrastinator
Image
terrafirma
Aug 25, 2013 2:14 PM CST
Hi, just found this threadโ€ฆ
The Santa Rosa Gardens has A. tuberosa, and better yet, it's on sale right now. Whistling I didn't buy them all! Whistling
http://www.santarosagardens.com/
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Hummingbirder
Image
Newyorkrita
Aug 25, 2013 2:27 PM CST
Besides Monarchs don't forget host plants for the Swallowtails. Easily found as they feed on Parsley or Dill or Fennel, all common herbs.
Name: Ginger
Fountain, Florida (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Plays in the sandbox Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Region: Gulf Coast Tip Photographer The WITWIT Badge
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Native Plants and Wildflowers Birds Plumerias Hummingbirder Dog Lover
Image
gingin
Aug 25, 2013 6:08 PM CST
Dave... would you like some seeds of Red butterfly weed...Bloodflower asclepis curvassavica 'Silky Deep Red" ?? If so, t-mail me your addy. I have some left that are hopefully still viable.
Each cloud has a silver lineing if only you look for it.
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Procrastinator Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Image
plantladylin
Aug 28, 2013 5:51 PM CST
Dave: Asclepias curassavica is listed as zone 9 - 11 but I'd think you could grow it as an annual.

This is the one gingin has to offer: Bloodflower (Asclepias curassavica 'Silky Deep Red')


I have extra seeds of this one (which looks almost identical): Tropical Milkweed (Asclepias curassavica) I think the seeds will still be viable in the spring as long as they are stored in a dry location. Shoot me a tree-mail if you'd like to try seeds of this one too. Smiling
~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Hummingbirder
Image
Newyorkrita
Aug 28, 2013 5:55 PM CST
I have grown Tropical Milkweed as an annual here in my garden. I makes those beautiful flowers all season long and is a strong grower. Plus of course it is a Monarch host plant just like the other milkweeds are.
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Procrastinator Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Image
plantladylin
Aug 28, 2013 6:34 PM CST
Hummingbirds and Monarch Butterflies enjoy the nectar of Tropical Milkweed, and yes it's a host for the Monarch Caterpillar!

Last month:
Thumb of 2013-08-29/plantladylin/f981db Thumb of 2013-08-29/plantladylin/09b74e Thumb of 2013-08-29/plantladylin/ff7f3e

~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Hummingbirder
Image
Newyorkrita
Aug 28, 2013 8:10 PM CST
Very pretty Lin.
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Procrastinator Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Image
plantladylin
Aug 29, 2013 7:01 AM CST
Thanks Rita! I've shared those photo's before and just realized the hummer one is my avatar pic. I think I need to find a new photo to display for my avatar.
~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Hummingbirder
Image
Newyorkrita
Aug 29, 2013 10:18 AM CST
Lin, I had the same Avatar for years and just recently have figgured out how to change it. Now I am on a roll and have changed the pictures often.
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Procrastinator Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Image
plantladylin
Aug 29, 2013 12:15 PM CST
I change mine every so often but sometimes don't even think about it.
~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~
Name: Terri Hamilton
Rockford, Illinois (Zone 5b)
Butterflies Organic Gardener Composter Cat Lover Garden Ideas: Level 1
Image
holity
Oct 3, 2013 7:35 PM CST
Check out this ... http://shop.monarchwatch.org/store/c/361-Gardening.aspx

And here is a link to a milkweed fact sheet that helps you figure out which species to plant in your area. http://monarchjointventure.org/images/uploads/documents/Milk...

Oo and I just found this exciting site! http://www.plantmilkweed.org/ It includes links to sources by state.
My blog, which occasionally talks about gardening: http://holity.blogspot.com/
[Last edited by holity - Oct 3, 2013 7:41 PM (+)]
Give a thumbs up | Quote | Post #492921 (14)
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Hummingbirder
Image
Newyorkrita
Oct 3, 2013 8:18 PM CST
Welcome! Welcome! Welcome to ATP Terri. Welcome!
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
Image
flaflwrgrl
Oct 3, 2013 8:37 PM CST
Welcome! Welcome! Welcome! to ATP Terri! And thanks I tip my hat to you. for those great links!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
Region: Canadian Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Tip Photographer Garden Ideas: Master Level I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Morning Glories Critters Allowed Birds Houseplants Butterflies Garden Photography
Image
mcash70
Oct 3, 2013 10:44 PM CST
Welcome! Terri, nice to meet you. Smiling
Name: Tara
NE, Florida (Zone 9a)
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Organic Gardener Garden Sages Birds Frogs and Toads Plant Identifier
Dragonflies Butterflies Hummingbirder Orchids Container Gardener Garden Procrastinator
Image
terrafirma
Oct 4, 2013 7:35 AM CST
Wonderful links! Thanks for those! And Welcome! Welcome! Welcome! nodding
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Procrastinator Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Image
plantladylin
Oct 4, 2013 10:15 AM CST
Welcome to ATP Terri and THANK YOU so much for those great links that contain some valuable information!! Thumbs up
~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~
Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Salvias Herbs Bluebonnets Native Plants and Wildflowers Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Forum moderator Purslane Hummingbirder Cat Lover Butterflies Birds
Image
LindaTX8
Oct 4, 2013 1:17 PM CST
Great links, Terri! Thanks!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad

Page 1 of 2 • 1 2

« Garden.org Homepage
« Back to the top
« Forums List
« Gardening for Butterflies, Birds and Bees forum
You must first create a username and login before you can reply to this thread.

Today's site banner is by dirtdorphins and is called "Dianthus 'Nyewood Cream'"