Daylilies forum: Old cultivars?

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Name: Theresa Maris
Bowling Green,KY (Zone 6b)
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tgarden711
Aug 11, 2013 6:30 PM CST
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These were already in my yard when I moved here. This house was built in the 80's. Someone planted them and I am in the process of moving them to a sunnier spot. The scapes are about 3 feet tall. Does anyone know what they are?

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Name: joann
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wickedelph
Aug 11, 2013 9:27 PM CST
Whatever the red one is, I think I have the same one that I inherited with our house. Similar ones are Red Magic and Crimson Pirate. I'm not even attempting to positively ID any of my inherited plants, but it's nice to know some guesses that seem pretty close, right?

Coincidentally, our house was also built in the 80s and I just went through moving my daylilies into sunnier areas of the yard. :)

You may like looking through this thread about older cultivars.

The thread "What are the "oldest" daylilies you grow?" in Daylilies forum
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Name: Theresa Maris
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tgarden711
Aug 12, 2013 5:43 AM CST
I looked on the AHS database and the orange one could perhaps be an old one called Bagdad an old Stout cultivar but most of the old cultivars do not have pictures to go by. I love them regardless but it would be nice to know their names and history. They make skinny foliage and small root systems. They appear to multiply by runners. I am waiting on the rain to stop so I can put them back out. I have already moved some of them and they seem much happier with more sun. I will check out Red Magic and Crimson Pirate. Thanks! Smiling
Name: Theresa Maris
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tgarden711
Aug 12, 2013 5:51 AM CST
Really looks like the red one could be Red Magic, they look identical Thumbs up
Name: Jan
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philljm
Aug 12, 2013 5:53 AM CST
The top one could be a ditch lily - and it does reproduce with runners and the clumps can get quite large. Put it where you don't mind if it overtakes an area.

I have an entire field of old daylilies - part of my family cottage property was a daylily farm in the 50's and 60's. I have transplanted about a half dozen to my house, and just love them.

Your older daylilies with the thinner scapes are most likely diploid varieties - just like my "cottage" daylilies. Tetraploids - which have been treated to double their chromosomes tend to have thicker scapes.

It is fun to try to identify them, but with over 70,000 registered varieties... well you know how difficult it gets. It is great that you are moving them to a better location, big clumps also do better being thinned anyways. Enjoy your beautiful flowers, and stop back in this section once in a while. Daylily addicts - errr "friends" are a great group here at ATP ~Jan
Name: Theresa Maris
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tgarden711
Aug 12, 2013 6:44 AM CST
I am planting a long perennial bed which includes a lot of daylilies that I bought as clumps without names and I am putting them there. They will have lots of room and I anticipate they will be lovely when their clumps get larger. Bonnie Wright ( Wrights Daylily Gardens in Hilham, TN ) told me not to combine anything resembling ditch lilies with my named ones and I have been following her advice. Yes, I am hopelessly addicted to daylilies Hilarious! .
Name: joann
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wickedelph
Aug 12, 2013 10:30 AM CST
Here's another interesting site about species daylilies. It does look like your orange one is a ditch lily and the lighter one looks like Hem. fulva Linda, which it says is not as invasive as the orange ditch lily. I've always been a fan of the ditch lilies but don't have enough room for them to roam here. Your new bed will look great! Big Grin

http://www.daylilygarden.com/speciesII
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Hemlady
Aug 12, 2013 10:38 AM CST
Thanks for the link to the species daylilies. Now I hope to figure out which one I have. It was sold to me as lemon lily but it is not lemon in color. It is more of a gold/orange and blooms extremely early.
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