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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 13, 2013 2:01 PM CST
This came from a local swap in April as a NOID. Now that it has bloomed, please help with an ID. Sorry about image quality - the macro setting is not working on my camera. Thanks.
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Sharon
Aug 13, 2013 5:32 PM CST
My first thought was wild foxglove - digitalis, but might be turtlehead (chelone) instead.
Not sure, greene, but it is a pretty plant.
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chelle
Aug 13, 2013 7:10 PM CST
Sharon, I think you're on the right track. http://www.wildflower.org/gallery/result.php?id_image=5941 Thumbs up

Lovely plant, Greene. Green Grin!
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Name: Sharon
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Sharon
Aug 13, 2013 7:17 PM CST
Thanks, Chelle, for the link; the picture stirred my old memories but I don't seem to ever remember botanical names. Sure looks like wild foxglove though.
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Horntoad
Aug 13, 2013 8:30 PM CST
Possibly a variety of Physostegia (Obedient Plant)?

http://www.wildflower.org/gallery/search.php?search_field=ph...

http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=physostegia


https://www.google.com/search?q=Physostegia&rlz=1C1GGGE_enUS...
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Name: Sharon
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Sharon
Aug 13, 2013 9:20 PM CST
Similar, but Jay, compare the edges of the foliage and see what you think.
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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 13, 2013 9:31 PM CST
Thanks. They all look so similar!
I'd better go out there tomorrow and get a better photo of the blooms and the leaves.
Wonder if it's too early to buy myself a new camera for Christmas?
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Horntoad
Aug 13, 2013 9:49 PM CST
Never to early!
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Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Aug 13, 2013 10:18 PM CST
If it is Obedient plant (Physostegia), it will have square stems, and leaves and stem will be hairless. Flowers do not need to be arranged in rows, as one sees in many photos.

Cannot be foxglove (Digitalis), which has alternate leaf arrangement. Your pic shows opposite leaf arrangement.

Pay particular attention to the calyx - the green part just behind the colored flower. ...not right for Turtlehead (Chelone), but could be Physostegia or penstemon.

If you look inside a penstemon flower, you will see the stamens (the stems that hold the pollen) following the inside surface of the flower in a circular fashion. No other flower that looks like this has this characteristic.
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Leftwood
Aug 14, 2013 10:22 AM CST
Examples of the penstemon stamens in Penstemon cobaea and Penstemon paysoniorum

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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 14, 2013 10:40 AM CST
Stamens, got it. Let me look that up! Here is something I learned from my S-I-L. Use a hand lens to get an extreme closeup. So probably not a penstemon. Does that leave only Physostegia?

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jvdubb
Aug 14, 2013 11:49 AM CST
greene said:Stamens, got it. Let me look that up! Here is something I learned from my S-I-L. Use a hand lens to get an extreme closeup. So probably not a penstemon. Does that leave only Physostegia?

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Leftwood
Aug 14, 2013 12:46 PM CST
If it has square stems, we can be pretty sure it is Physostegia. Yours seems to be a wilder (or wild) form. Don't be alarmed that it doesn't look so much like the pics of cultivated Obedient plants. Take a look at the wildflower sites, too.
If not square stemmed, then back to the drawing board, and I don't have any other ideas.

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stone
Aug 14, 2013 12:54 PM CST
greene said:
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Sure looks like physostegia to me... square stem, jaged leaves.
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chelle
Aug 14, 2013 1:07 PM CST
Arlene, you made me look! Hilarious! Had to run out and see what the leaves of my Dragon's Head plant looked like. Big Grin

(They're much more toothy than these, I think.)
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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 14, 2013 2:01 PM CST
Yippee Hurray! and thanks to every one of you.
Golly gee this was fun!!!
Or @jvdubb should I say I had a roaring good time? Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
Yes, yes they have square stems.
So... unusually wild form of Physostegia then? Do we have it?
C'mon, please tell me if I can mark this solved.
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Name: Sherry
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wcgypsy
Aug 15, 2013 3:01 AM CST
Whatever it is, I find those closeup shots to be very interesting...'watercolor' effect.
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
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Sharon
Aug 15, 2013 9:55 AM CST
Exactly, like a pale O'Keefe painting. I've been thinking the same thing.
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wcgypsy
Aug 15, 2013 12:06 PM CST
I've been checking out 'hand lenses' online...

So....Mary, what did you do? Did you use a loupe? Have a camera to which you can attach a lens, or what? I would like to duplicate that effect without going into technical photography work....lol..

Thanks for any info.....
I could be wrong...
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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 15, 2013 2:33 PM CST
@wcgypsy - I just sent you a Tree-Mail.

Edited to add:
I wrote a short idea/article about the method:
http://garden.org/ideas/view/greene/1422/Macro-Hack-for-Phot...
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