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Cinta
Aug 17, 2013 10:16 AM CST
It got down to 49 degrees a record low for my city and I went into surfing the net and ordering. I usually do not do that until Jan.

If this is any indication that I am going to need some handholding this winter please be prepared. I am going to need some help. I am not a rich woman I will end up sleeping on the street and drinking rain water.

Okay I ordered
TENDER SUCCULENTS......
Aeonium Sunburst - Had it.. killed it
Crassula Corymbulosa "Campfire" - Another killed it
Senecio Vitalis 'Serpents'

HARDY SEDUM....

Corsicum
Hakonense 'Chocolate Ball'
Linear Variegatum - Had it killed it
Sieboldii - Moved and left it at the old house

I had some of these before and due to my work schedule I think they died because of the lack of care. I will see if that is it or I just cannot grow them. I have the time now to evaluate what I can grow and not grow.

This is a small order but if I start this early ordering by Jan I will not have a home to plant or a warm home to bring in the tender sucs. Rolling on the floor laughing

If anyone is growing any of these and you have pointers please share especially with the ones I have killed.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Aug 17, 2013 1:59 PM CST

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Nice list Cinta. Hope you will post photos when they arrive.

The main thing to know about the tender type of sedum, and other tender succulents, is to give them very little water in the winter, and a bright window to sit in.

S. linear 'Variegatum' needs some protection in zone 6, even though it is listed as hardy to that zone. Freezing and thawing would be tough on it. Maybe site the container up again the foundation of the house?

Sedum corsicum This is a synonym for Sedum dasyphyllum. It should be hardy in your zone 6.

S. hakonense 'Chocolate Ball' Growing zone is all over the map as to hardiness. Does anyone out there grow this one in zone 6? I have it in zone 8, it tends to go winter dormant for me. Could be because of excessive rain during winter and spring here. I have placed it in a new bed filled with sandy loam to see if it stay happier in winter time.

S. sieboldii This one will grow in zone 5. Some of our members grow this in zone 5. Should be an easy one for you. Tabby & picklepuff can give you more information on how they place it in the garden (soil, sun, etc). Also whether or not it is everygreen or deciduous for them.

Hope this was of some help to you. Hopefully others will come along from colder climates than mine with more information on how they grow them. Thumbs up
Name: tabby
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tabby
Aug 17, 2013 2:04 PM CST
I've seen people growing S. hakonense 'Chocolate Ball' here so it can handle zone 5.

S. sieboldii is deciduous. In my experience, deciduous sedums are very hardy.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 17, 2013 2:05 PM CST

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Thank you for the info tabby.

S. sieboldii is deciduous for me also, in zone 8. Comes back every year.
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Cinta
Aug 17, 2013 5:39 PM CST
Thank you Lynn, Tabby. I am ordered the hardy ones for the garden. I am trying to get more color in the Cactus, Succulent garden. I am ripping out some of the green aggressive stuff and add some large boulders. After the cactus bloomed everything was just green except for Tri-color.

Lynn the tender sucs do not have to worry about me watering them. I am not a water indoor garden lady. They have to chase me down and scream in my ear to get a sip of water. That is why sucs are good indoor plants for me. I love putting them in pretty pots and ignoring them until summer when they go outside and get rainwater. The ones I killed died in the summer. So I am trying them this time in the winter and see what happens.

I think Holly is the one that posted a pic of 'Chocolate Ball' She lives in Pa so I thought it maybe good. I need to stop lying I was not thinking I was just winter buying. Hilarious!

Lynn I will post pics when the arrive. This is the first time I have order sucs from them. Years ago they sold Perennials and they sent huge plants. I will see what they look like now.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 17, 2013 5:46 PM CST

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Who are you buying from?
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Aug 17, 2013 6:37 PM CST
Cinta, I have Senecio vitalis and from a 4 inch pot I divided the plant to plant into 2 different pots with a bit leftover.
Morning sun is what I give the chalksticks and I water once or twice a week so far for this summer. We've been lucky; our hot temps have only been the 80's to mid 90's for this summer in zone 9b. Mostly the 80's.

Here's planter with Senecio vitalis 'Chalksticks'

Planted April 2013 and now in Aug 2013
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 17, 2013 7:06 PM CST

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Very nice Bev, it looks very happy and healthy, as do the other plants.
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Cinta
Aug 17, 2013 7:55 PM CST
Nice arrangement Bev. You always make such pretty combos.

Lynn I got them from Mountain Crest.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 17, 2013 10:02 PM CST

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Can't wait to see them.
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Cinta
Aug 21, 2013 2:54 PM CST
They arrived.

Some I put in pots because the fell out when I was unwrapping them.
They were wrapped good and in 3" pot.

Sunburst
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Campfire
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Sieboldii They put a sprig of the varigated one in the pot
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Sedum dasyphyllum
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Chocolate Ball
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I have two in pots I will post later

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Aug 21, 2013 3:05 PM CST

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Hurray! I am so excited for you Cinta. You'd think it was me getting the plants. Hilarious!

Just wait until your Campfire and your Sunburst get some sun. The colors will be amazing. Lovey dubby
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Cinta
Aug 21, 2013 3:31 PM CST
Thank you Lynn. I am always excited when I get plants. It is a sickness. Rolling on the floor laughing I really just wanted Sunburst I threw in the other plants just to fill up the cart. I cannot wait for it to get its big head. It is a larger size than the one I got that died a few years ago.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 21, 2013 4:50 PM CST

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May that be all the sickness we experience. Big Grin

I got one for my two years ago for a gift, it was gigantic. I so wanted to bring one home, but I knew I would have to keep it indoors for winter. Just didn't want anymore house plants. Sighhhhhh
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Cinta
Aug 21, 2013 5:32 PM CST
No houseplants. Confused What do you do all winter for your plant fix? I do not water but I love all the plants that have color or are odd to go in odd pots. That is my fun.

My living room is all white. White furniture and carpet but the plants are all colors in white pots. I call it my winter garden.
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Aug 21, 2013 6:43 PM CST
Cinta said:No houseplants. Confused What do you do all winter for your plant fix?


I have hardly any houseplants too (and I am in zone 9). Our house just doesn't have the best light and the philodendron family is not my favorite. We have 4 sets of double French doors to look out of and so the plants outside can be admired from the inside. Of course I can walk outside too in the winter... Whistling
Lucky you, Cinta; you have two sets of gardens to tend to for the year!

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Aug 21, 2013 7:11 PM CST

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Both of you (Cinta & Bev) have such lovely gardening situations.

I do keep about 4 plants indoors for the winter, most are Adenium.
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Cinta
Aug 21, 2013 8:40 PM CST
Sure, Sure rub it in Bev. You want to see my front yard looks like in the winter?
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I would chew my arms off if I did not have my indoor plants. Blinking

I do not have any window coverings because of the placement of my house and windows. I have 20 windows and only 3 of them face the front of the house that involves a room. They are hallway windows and stairway windows. All the rooms I would be in the windows face out to the woods the only peepers I could get would be deer and other various animals. So I have plants in front of them. nodding
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Aug 21, 2013 8:58 PM CST
Ok, Cinta, not rubbing this in but here is what I see when I look outside one of my French door and it will probably look pretty much like this outside after I remove the shade cloth daily in winter... Whistling None of these suckers are coming inside. They better survive or die (Bev's Tuff Love)!

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Aug 21, 2013 9:05 PM CST

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Lovey dubby To both the snow view and Bev's patio view. I love them both. Hurray!

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