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Aug 22, 2013 10:32 PM CST
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Name: Bi and farmwind Dehuan
Nanning Guangxi province ,CHIN
Region: Georgia Native Plants and Wildflowers






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Thumb of 2013-08-23/farmwind/189084 Climbing Roses flower size 4 cm petal :9-16 height :90-180cm foliage : sheen and dark green good resistance zuzu I can not find more information about this rose from saler
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Aug 22, 2013 10:44 PM CST
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Name: Bi and farmwind Dehuan
Nanning Guangxi province ,CHIN
Region: Georgia Native Plants and Wildflowers



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full bloom in this rainy day Glare
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Aug 22, 2013 10:49 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
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Stunning photos!

I think it must be this hybrid musk, Farmwind, which has a climbing habit.

Hybrid Musk Rose (Rosa 'Prosperity')
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Aug 22, 2013 11:16 PM CST
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Name: Bi and farmwind Dehuan
Nanning Guangxi province ,CHIN
Region: Georgia Native Plants and Wildflowers
thanks zuzu, since I planted in a cuboidal plastic container l don·t know how to prune . Confused
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Aug 23, 2013 7:10 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Farmwind, that is a lovely rose! Thank you for the beautiful photos.
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Aug 24, 2013 3:46 AM CST
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Name: Bi and farmwind Dehuan
Nanning Guangxi province ,CHIN
Region: Georgia Native Plants and Wildflowers
Porkpal,Thanks you for your praise I tip my hat to you. it is easy to grow and I bought it in March this year. Big Grin
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Sep 1, 2013 6:03 PM CST
Name: Andi
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
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What a beautiful rose, is it fragrant? Hybrid musk roses are good candidates for my wooded lot.
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Sep 3, 2013 2:54 PM CST
Name: Cindi
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That is lovely. Palatine is offering that one this year, I think! I see that Pink Prosperity is already listed as sold out, not even 48 hours after sales opened.
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Sep 3, 2013 9:48 PM CST
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Name: Bi and farmwind Dehuan
Nanning Guangxi province ,CHIN
Region: Georgia Native Plants and Wildflowers
Andi,the fragrance is not so strong but it can attract bees .smelling fresh! you can see the detail on database Big Grin
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Sep 3, 2013 10:09 PM CST
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Name: Bi and farmwind Dehuan
Nanning Guangxi province ,CHIN
Region: Georgia Native Plants and Wildflowers
Cindi, this kind of rose is not so popular on rose Chinese forum. Big Grin
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Sep 4, 2013 6:32 AM CST
Name: Cindi
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Farmwind, are the hybrid teas more popular there? I grow mostly shrub roses, Austins, and floribundas. One time a garden visitor asked, "don't you grow any REAL roses?" I love the hybrid teas, but they take more care in the harsh climate where I live. Shrug!
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Sep 9, 2013 9:15 AM CST
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CindiKS said:Farmwind, are the hybrid teas more popular there? I grow mostly shrub roses, Austins, and floribundas. One time a garden visitor asked, "don't you grow any REAL roses?" I love the hybrid teas, but they take more care in the harsh climate where I live. Shrug!


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I don't have the winds 24/7 that you do, but I'm colder w/a shorter growing span & my HTs are just fine. Whistling Whistling Whistling
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Sep 9, 2013 9:34 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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I think the lack of black spot helps the hybrid teas more than anything else.
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Sep 9, 2013 10:40 AM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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If conditions are right, you are going to get bs. Our temps have been cooler and we've actually had rain this summer, and I've seen bs on roses that have always been clean for me. I consider it just to be an odd year. However, I did notice yesterday, that most of the HTs are still clean.

HTs do very well in my climate, but there are other roses that get far more bs. It usually depends on how long a spring we have because it is more humid during the spring period than it is during summer months.

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Lyn
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Sep 11, 2013 7:04 AM CST
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Name: Bi and farmwind Dehuan
Nanning Guangxi province ,CHIN
Region: Georgia Native Plants and Wildflowers
Hybrid teas were also very popular before the introduce of Austin roses ,On the current situation,our people prefer english roses. I also like Austin roses,but some consumers blindly chase the new roses ,I can hardly understand why people boost the new rose so crazy so that the price becomes higher and higher,As a student I can not afford , it seems that gardening is a luxury Sad
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Sep 11, 2013 7:09 AM CST
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Name: Bi and farmwind Dehuan
Nanning Guangxi province ,CHIN
Region: Georgia Native Plants and Wildflowers
porkpal ,this rose really do well in fighting with black spot ,you can see that foliage I agree
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Sep 11, 2013 7:12 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Bi and farmwind Dehuan
Nanning Guangxi province ,CHIN
Region: Georgia Native Plants and Wildflowers
RoseBlush1 ,maybe it will bloom better in spring as the cosy weather Hurray!
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Sep 11, 2013 9:18 AM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
Farmwind.........

Even disease resistant roses can blackspot if conditions are right. Bs spores are inactive after temps reach 85 degrees. If the temps stay anywhere below that, a rose is more susceptible to disease. In my climate, the norm is that once it starts to warm up, day temps start increasing by about ten degrees per week, then boom, the heat hits and temps are in the high nineties to low hundreds for the next several months. Sometimes, dropping down to the low nineties. Always with a forty to fifty degree difference between day temps and night temps.

If there are six hours of temps no higher than eighty-five degrees, the bs spores can become active and infect the foliage, but with the high temps during the day, those spores are fried and do not truly harm the foliage. If I have a long, wet spring, the roses that have a propensity to bs, will get it. If they do not re-foliate in time for the high summer temps, then they are the wrong rose for this garden. I am not going to spray.

This year, the day temps stayed in the high eighties and low-to-mid 90s most of the time, with a week or a little more than a week in the usual high 90s and low 100s, so I had more bs in my garden than usual.

I have heard for years that HTs are more disease prone, but in my garden they have had the most resistance to disease, even this year. So, for me, this class of roses is the best class for me to grow because many of them have the heavy, thick petal substance that can handle the heat and not fry as much as the roses in other classes.

I also prune to encourage denser foliage because I believe it helps the roses handle the heat better and serve to pull moisture up to the top of the plant, which in turn keeps the blooms from frying as easily.

So, since temps were lower this summer than the norm, I had more bs in the garden than I have seen in several years.

Right now, temps are in the usual high 90s and low 100s ... but not for the same number of hours per day as earlier in the year.

So even buying disease resistant roses, will not guarantee that you will have no bs in your garden every year, but it certainly helps. Smiling

There are other variables that can make a rose more disease prone, but that is for another post. Smiling

Smiles,
Lyn
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Oct 22, 2013 9:05 AM CST
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Name: Bi and farmwind Dehuan
Nanning Guangxi province ,CHIN
Region: Georgia Native Plants and Wildflowers
Lyn, Thank you for your information .I make it sense now , I try so hard to conquer the powdery mildew and black spot , but the effect is always not Obvious, SO ,I let them grow as they like . Sad
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Oct 22, 2013 10:20 AM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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farmwind ......

Many roses will outgrow the propensity to be susceptible to mildew and blackspot and become more disease resistant as they mature. Their immune system improves, just like a child's and they become more healthy plants.

Also, how you prune can have an impact on the health of a rose, as do other variables.

I had one rose sited in the wrong spot in my Socal garden ... a place where the cold air pooled ... and that rose was a mildew disaster. When I moved it to a spot that had better air circulation, it was totally clean.

It's always something.

Smiles,
Lyn
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