I do have some of the tiny webby, ones that form tall clumps, that have burned on the sun side of the clump. But the other webby/fuzzy ones that grow in flate clumps haven't burned.
I'll try to remember to take some photos tomorrow afternoon.

Yes you're right I have 'Affine' and one other that I can't remember at the moment, I have to shade those ones, but Ali, and tomentosum, and other arachs seem to love the sun!

Hookerii burns on the sun side.
Nothing stops Ali, Cebenense and Cobweb Buttons. I'll have to do an inspection of all the webby ones and give a report.

That's a good idea! This summer was a good example of summers for the rest of the usa, (meaning normally it isn't as close a comparison, weather and sun wise!)

Thanks you two for the willingness to investigate.
I like the arachs and love the fuzzy and ciliated, but hate putting the time in to care for them and not have them thrive. I just may not have the right conditions for them. My DH mentioned that my semp bed may be affected by the sun and heat reflected off the guest windows onto some white tile and the semp bed. This may account for a bunch of my semps getting fried early this summer. I had to resort to shade cloth to cover entire bed in PM sun of 4 hours duration.

Bev, I agree with everyone elses experience with the arachs.

I get rotting faster with them than the other semps when we get too much rain.

I find they tend to grow better by *themselves*, rather than in close proximity to other varieties.

I have thought Allelopathy is at play here and the arachs are more sensitive to it, possibly.

Very interesting, Janice....now I have to go and look up allelopathy to see if it means what it means...
OK, back again and yes, very interesting....Dictionary asked:" What made you want to look up allelopathy? Please tell us where you read or heard it" and so I gave them your name...

I had thought to separate the arachs from the other non-arachs but really didn't like them all by themselves (they looked like an old folks home; you know, with all the white hair and/or unshaven stubbies). So I have been trying to incorporate them back into the general population but being more mindful of where I put them. So far a few are doing OK mixed in. What I like about the arachs in the general population is that they serve well as accents amongst the color (mostly green, right now).

You are making me laugh as always, Bev!!!

Like you, I think the arachs are so beautiful when contrasted with other type Semps and I do arrange them in the mixed population for effect.

Yours look beautiful!!!


I just think when I want fast increase or for the arachs' growth to really take off, they seem to prefer their own territory.

I love arachs.I had them at my old house.I couldnt believe they could grow in peagravel and spread so wonderfully.Bloomed like mad too.
I just have wee ones planted this spring. Janice : like yours mine are mixed with semps.

Very nice JoAnn!

webesemps said:Very interesting, Janice....now I have to go and look up allelopathy to see if it means what it means...
OK, back again and yes, very interesting....Dictionary asked:" What made you want to look up allelopathy? Please tell us where you read or heard it" and so I gave them your name...

You do know how to keep us laughing Bev.

webesemps said:I had thought to separate the arachs from the other non-arachs but really didn't like them all by themselves (they looked like an old folks home; you know, with all the white hair and/or unshaven stubbies). So I have been trying to incorporate them back into the general population but being more mindful of where I put them. So far a few are doing OK mixed in. What I like about the arachs in the general population is that they serve well as accents amongst the color (mostly green, right now).

Still laughing over the old folks home statement.
I do have to agree with what you said about the arachs being a great accents amongst the other types of semps. Especially this time of year.
Nice photo of the arach snuggling up to the green semp. Wonder if they are planning a wedding?

Janice, I tend to give them space and find that they do also seem to multiply faster. Might just be my imagination. They really do prefer to be in a nice sized colony.

Jo Ann, come next year they will be taking over. Do you have a photo of the ones that used to grow in the pea gravel. That would be so much fun to see.

I will look for old images but there arent many and I wasnt as obsessive a gardener in those days. I didnt photo as many plants as scenes.
I was too busy with business.

I hope you are able to find some. I would so love to see them growing that way. How beautiful it must have been.

Just looked and there isnt one of that part of the house that shows plants.The property was so small I gardened in containers and took pix of those for the most part.

Bummer, but thank you so much for looking.

I just wasnt as organized in those days. Not as obsessive a gardener ,too bust making a living I guess.

I understand. I never spent this kind of time with plants when I was younger. To busy raising children and gardening to produce food for the upcoming year.

I moved to the far burbs and have a lot of time on my hands.
Gardening and taking photos keeps me from going utterly out of my mind,advancing age is cutting into my time but I finished what I started on this barren plot 6 years ago.
These garden websites are a great help.I hope the moderators never become blase about what a valuable service ATP provides.

Jo Ann! Well said! One thing I really like about ATP is Lynn and Chris welcome participation and are fun! And funny!! And they pay comediannes like Bev to join our party! Right Bev (wink wink!)