As a comment about Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum sp. from Epinel), banker07 wrote:

here is something wrong....

this plant is no cultivar but collected in nature; but it's unknown to which species it belongs; there is no information about "wulfenii-hybrid" or "Formerly known as Sempervivum tectorum ex p x wulfenii Epinel";

without knowing the species it is correctly named "Sempervivum ssp. from Epinel"

in 2008 the breeder Martin Haberer (Germany) give this plant the name 'Epinella' - but only cultivars have to get a name...plants found in nature have to be named with species and location;

so we have to delete this name and call it "S. sp. from Epinel" and declare it as collected in nature;
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Sep 7, 2013 7:08 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Thank you so much Peter for giving correct information for this Sempervivum. It is appreciated. Please check to see if I have it correct now. : )
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Sep 8, 2013 2:07 AM CST
Name: Peter Dieckmann
Germany
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country of origin is italy (Epinel) - there it was found in nature;
year of registration must be deleted because it is in collection for years before it;
Origin of name isn't Martin Haberer for that name it has now - that an "organic name"
maybe you add 'Epinella' to the further names and add this information to the field "Origin of name"
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Sep 8, 2013 4:23 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Hopefully I got it right this time Peter. Smiling
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Sep 9, 2013 2:16 AM CST
Name: Peter Dieckmann
Germany
Region: Europe Sempervivums Container Gardener Hibiscus Bee Lover Butterflies
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Thumbs up
everything is right - thank you Lynn
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Sep 9, 2013 3:56 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Hurray! Hurray!
Yeah. Green Grin!
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Sep 9, 2013 4:10 AM CST
Name: Peter Dieckmann
Germany
Region: Europe Sempervivums Container Gardener Hibiscus Bee Lover Butterflies
Dragonflies Birds Hummingbirder Frogs and Toads Dog Lover Cat Lover
I guess you are a night owl (3:56 AM) Big Grin
www.sempervivum-liste.de
www.hauswurze.de
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Sep 9, 2013 5:05 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
I woke up and couldn't go back to sleep. Sad
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