Plant ID forum: Tall tree, glossy smooth leaves, lots of berries

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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Sep 15, 2013 5:07 PM CST

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Any thoughts on what tree this is? It's tall, maybe 30 to 40 feet. Growing in Jacksonville, TX.



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Sharon
Sep 16, 2013 10:44 AM CST
It looks so much like a laurel or a rhododendron. I can't tell the size of the leaves, but will the berries darken?
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dave
Sep 16, 2013 11:35 AM CST

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Thanks for replying, Sharon.

I don't think it's either of those simply due to the size. It's a gigantic tree, much like a Magnolia grandiflora.

As for the leaves: they are about 2" long. I don't know if the berries will darken. The tree is in another part of the county and the owner doesn't know anything about it.
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Sharon
Sep 16, 2013 11:56 AM CST
You're welcome. It's a beautiful tree.
I hope you get an ID, I'd like to know too.
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DavidofDeLand
Sep 16, 2013 12:26 PM CST
It looks and sounds like one of the giant Hollies. I have seen a couple over 50 ft. tall and with thick trunks and visually shaped like Magnolias minus the large leaves. Time will tell if the berries start changing to yellow orange or red. Good Luck with your search! Smiling
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Horntoad
Sep 16, 2013 12:35 PM CST
Try Blackgum - Nyssa sylvatica

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dave
Sep 16, 2013 12:39 PM CST

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Thanks David.

I am starting to suspect that the tree is Nyssa sylvatica.
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dave
Sep 16, 2013 12:40 PM CST

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Cross posted with you, Jay!!!
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Sharon
Sep 16, 2013 12:41 PM CST
Blackgum is a good guess. I think their berries turn darkish, right, Jay?
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Sharon
Sep 16, 2013 12:42 PM CST
We all crossed! I agree. Blackgum.
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Horntoad
Sep 16, 2013 12:55 PM CST
Sharon said:Blackgum is a good guess. I think their berries turn darkish, right, Jay?


If you look at the first picture you can see a few of the berries have already turned dark.


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dave
Sep 16, 2013 1:01 PM CST

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Good eye. I never even noticed it in my own photo.
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springcolor
Sep 16, 2013 1:58 PM CST
I was going to guess a bay tree but looks like you have the ID
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DavidofDeLand
Sep 16, 2013 7:30 PM CST
A mystery solved! I'm glad you found the answer! Smiling

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