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Sep 24, 2013 3:39 PM CST
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Name: David Paul
(Zone 9b)
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Thank you Lynn,

I would like to also tell all that these little shallow plantings are very realistic in the long term. Any very shallow container will work with some plants that I have been working with for over 30 years.

The secret is:

Super saturate real unprocessed Spaghnum. Ring it out with your hands to as dry as you can get it. Pack it in as tight as you can get it to a 1/4 inch depth. I grow some Bonsai trees in the same.

Add the plants and spread the roots over this compacted Spaghnum, and then continue to slowly and tightly add more of the same around and over the plants. I use the back and front side of forks and a dowel in this process.

Small Bromeliads, certain difficult succulents, (including the plethora of Haworthias I have never seen reproduce better, and thrive in this situation;...some of which I have grown in 1" deep containers this way through the years) and of course all Tillandsias work this way.

The Spanish Moss is a dressing only, and is a living Tillandsia also. Its not the growing medium. Fish Emulsion from fermented fish grinds in containers (costly) or fish water from your tanks or pond cleanings are the star fertilizers used sparingly. I will whisp the Miracle grow (liquid fertilizer of choice) over them rapidly on occasion too...

Go ahead and experiment with these techniques I've just shared. You may be surprised! I tip my hat to you.
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Sep 24, 2013 3:45 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Container Gardener Foliage Fan Sempervivums Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Garden Ideas: Master Level
David, thanks much for the Tips and Techniques! I'm all ears!
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Sep 24, 2013 3:58 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: David Paul
(Zone 9b)
Cat Lover Hibiscus Seed Starter Native Plants and Wildflowers Vegetable Grower Region: Florida
Miniature Gardening Keeper of Poultry Herbs Foliage Fan Farmer Dragonflies
Your welcome Bev.

Its also important to wash all existing soil off the roots before shifting over to this medium...
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Sep 24, 2013 4:02 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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David I split this off from the original thread so we can feature the technique of how to grow plants in miniature containers. It you could go into your first post in the new thread and add a photo of one of your miniature containers, it would show up on the list of threads with the photos showing. Thumbs up
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Sep 24, 2013 4:21 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: David Paul
(Zone 9b)
Cat Lover Hibiscus Seed Starter Native Plants and Wildflowers Vegetable Grower Region: Florida
Miniature Gardening Keeper of Poultry Herbs Foliage Fan Farmer Dragonflies
Sure Lynn! Smiling
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Sep 24, 2013 4:38 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Thank you David. I transferred one of the photos to the first post in the thread. Now it shows in the list of threads. Thumbs up
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Sep 24, 2013 4:49 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Container Gardener Foliage Fan Sempervivums Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Garden Ideas: Master Level
David, Can I assume all your mini planters have holes on bottom?

Here's a mini container I got from Otter that I would like to plant into. Was thinking succulent of some sort of succulent(s) but interested in what you might suggest since you seem to have a wilder imagination than I would ever have in 4 lifetimes...


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Sep 24, 2013 5:13 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: David Paul
(Zone 9b)
Cat Lover Hibiscus Seed Starter Native Plants and Wildflowers Vegetable Grower Region: Florida
Miniature Gardening Keeper of Poultry Herbs Foliage Fan Farmer Dragonflies
Absolutely Bev.

Drainholes are hugly important and I use large ones with screenover them. I am resending this pic. so you can see how large the one is even in this small poo-poo planter without having to backtrack...
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Sep 24, 2013 6:07 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Wow, that is a big hole.
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Sep 25, 2013 2:25 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Great article David.
I have Zone envy now.
That small planter with the booklet is great.Your sense of whimsy shows well.
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Sep 25, 2013 12:04 PM CST
Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
Garden Ideas: Level 1
David good info thank you.
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Sep 26, 2013 10:45 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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Thanks for sharing this information with us David. I have zone envy too. Smiling
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Sep 26, 2013 10:48 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: David Paul
(Zone 9b)
Cat Lover Hibiscus Seed Starter Native Plants and Wildflowers Vegetable Grower Region: Florida
Miniature Gardening Keeper of Poultry Herbs Foliage Fan Farmer Dragonflies
I think this speaks a really good picture, of what this concept is about in a more fluid written order for those interested in trying it.

Happy gardening, and experiment with something new!

"So many clippings,.............I hate throwing them in the trash"..................Awe heck,.........Lets see what happens if I play around with a few to see what happens!"

Happy gardening!

David


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Sep 26, 2013 10:53 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Thanks for the link! Hurray! Hurray! Off to check everything out. Big Grin
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