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As a comment about Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Casa'), banker07 wrote:

I guess that S. 'Casa' has to look totally different; I can't believe the photos here were showing the right plant;

the breeder Martin Haberer is a good semps-friend of mine and we get this plant from him directly; furthermore his description won't fit to the photos here....

I will load up our photos to the database;
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picklepuff
Sep 29, 2013 10:15 AM CST
I greatly appreciate your comments. Since you have the original semp, can you write a brief description of 'Casa' at different times of the growing season? Do all of the photos in our data base appear to not be the correct Casa? I do know for a fact that those of us that do have Casa in our collections, have received the semp from different sources.
Thank you so much, Peter. I feel it is very important to have "things correct".
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banker07
Sep 29, 2013 10:34 AM CST
I have to watch it around the year - not done before; it's difficult to keep 1.500 cultivars in focus over the year ;-)

but I can try to translate the short-discription of Martin himself:

Ros. 7 cm (about 2,8''), lightbluegreen, inside red, broad leaves

on the photos I can see some small and long leaves....some red at the outside...some yellow....

I can't imagine one of it turns to the right appearence :-(
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valleylynn
Sep 30, 2013 5:00 PM CST
Peter, on your site it shows it in June, July and Aug. http://sempervivum-liste.de/Sempervivum/Casa
Horst's site obviously shows it at least 2 other months. http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=...

Mine, tabby and Sandi's are definitely not the correct plant. I actually don't have this one in my collection, the photos are from PO. But there's looks even different from the the other three. Sad
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Sep 30, 2013 5:09 PM CST
https://simplysucculents.com/online-store/products/semperviv...
http://kallima.sk/especies.php?menuID=enk_genus&dbID=5&pisme... Boy, I really like this season for Casa. Lovey dubby
http://www.smgsucculents.com/sempervivum%20%27casa%27
http://www.johnjearrard.co.uk/plants/sempervivum/sempervivum...
http://www.succulents.jp/photolist_sempervivum_comC.html
Name: Sandi
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picklepuff
Sep 30, 2013 7:14 PM CST
My Casa is from SMG. I don't remember exactly where Tabby obtained hers but I can ask. I think it may have been from Simply Succulents
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banker07
Oct 1, 2013 1:33 AM CST
the most photos show the wrong plant; that's not Casa - that's Casablanca (very similar to Adamina);

this confusion happens long ago... Crying
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Name: Sandi
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picklepuff
Oct 1, 2013 8:03 AM CST
I will see if I can find Casablanca here in the US to compare. Thanks Peter! Thumbs up
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banker07
Oct 1, 2013 8:27 AM CST
I guess they are all under the wrong name Casa around; Crying
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Oct 1, 2013 1:40 PM CST
Sandi, both yours and Tabby's are from SMG.
On my way to delete the incorrect photos. Sorry it took so long for me to respond to this. I've have been gone since yesterday afternoon and just got back.
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gg5
Jan 21, 2014 2:22 AM CST
@picklepuff @valleylynn @banker07 Hi all, I have this plant called 'Casa' which I bought from SMG, did we decide it is 'Casablanca' yet? Or is it simply a NOID?? (I'm hoping its 'Casablanca' because what a pretty name for such a pretty plant!!)
Cheers and thanks
I tip my hat to you.
Plants bring me peace and calm, more of what we all need Smiling
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banker07
Jan 21, 2014 3:00 AM CST
Hi Greg;

the wrong Casa is very similar to the right Casablanca - but it's not sure... :-(

we know that a lot of NOIDs are similar to known cultivars; but there is a risk that it's not the same genome;

Peter
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jan 21, 2014 9:17 PM CST
Let us keep watching. Please enter your photos in this thread. It will help if we can see them in all the seasons.
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gg5
Jan 21, 2014 10:01 PM CST
I will! I meant to take my camera with me today and forgot so I'll bring it tomorrow! There are some lovely semps in my tubs!
Cresta and Round Midnight are gorgeous! Hurray!
Plants bring me peace and calm, more of what we all need Smiling
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jan 21, 2014 10:12 PM CST
Can't wait to see them Greg. Excitement is growing, I can feel spring just around the corner. Hurray!

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