Plant ID forum: I don't think it's what I planted.

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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Oct 1, 2013 1:55 PM CST
I put some seeds of Echinacea in one pot, and Passiflora foetida in the other…I don't believe I got either one! Blinking
Any ideas?
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And the other one...
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Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
Oct 1, 2013 2:50 PM CST
That first one drives me nuts. It's polygonum, aka Smartweed. It breaks off at the ground when you go to pull it. It spreads like crazy here!
The second one is what we call Swamp Mallow, not sure if you have it down there. Both those weeds like pond banks, did you get your soil from a swampy place?
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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Oct 1, 2013 3:08 PM CST
Very interesting Cindi, Thanks…Believe it or not, I used Miracle Gro Seed starting mix. Blinking No idea where these could have come from! But they are outta here right now!
I tip my hat to you.
Name: Danita
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Danita
Oct 1, 2013 8:16 PM CST
The first one looks more like a Ludwigia of some sort....the little yellow flower is wrong for Polygonum.
Definitely not what you planted, regardless! Sad
Name: Anne
Summerville, SC (Zone 8a)
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Xeramtheum
Oct 1, 2013 8:26 PM CST
ACK!!!! The 2nd one is Passiflora foetida! Hope you have pulled it out! I grow the cousin, Passiflora foetida var. gossypifolia. I recognize the structures on the stem!

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Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
Oct 2, 2013 11:12 AM CST
Danita, good catch! I didn't even see the little yellow flowers!
Anne, the 2nd one is what she planted, then! What's the issue with that passiflora?
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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Oct 2, 2013 12:10 PM CST
I'm wondering the issue as well…My best guess would be that like a lot of Passi's, it could become weedy/invasive? I have a P. incarnata that I believe could also be called 'invasive'. Comes up everywhere! Is that the case?
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Oct 2, 2013 12:13 PM CST
In your zone yes and even in my zone. That's why I only grow passies in containers - in fact I never put any potentially invasive plants in the ground unless I'm more than 100% sure I can contain it.
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Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
Oct 2, 2013 1:27 PM CST
Last year, I bought passiflora that were not supposed to be hardy in my zone 6 garden. I planted them next to climbing roses up next to our house. They didn't grow much because we had the summer with heat from hell, so I forgot I had them. This year, they were back! They are now covering the roses and spreading all through the whole flower bed. The blooms are lovely, but I'm a little concerned that by planting them next to the warm brick house i have provided them with zone 8 protection. Even if we do get a cold winter, I may be stuck with these! Had I known about this microclimate, I would have corralled them in pots! yikes!
BTW--I would never have guessed that the leaves in that second picture are passiflora. They don't look anything like the ones I have seen. I'll be on the lookout for those!
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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Oct 2, 2013 9:18 PM CST
Yes! I didn't think that they were Passi's either! I was expecting the 'lobed' leaves. I'd never seen these before either!
I appreciate your incite! I may plant some more of these seeds, and contain them, as you said! See what happens, and pray that they can be 'maintained'! We'll see!
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 3, 2013 9:07 AM CST
Tara: The first two look like some sort of Ludwigia to me too, possibly Ludwigia alternifolia:

http://uswildflowers.com/detail.php?SName=Ludwigia%20alterni...

https://gobotany.newenglandwild.org/species/ludwigia/alterni...




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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Oct 3, 2013 9:47 AM CST
Yes, thank you all! I tip my hat to you. & I agree I believe it is the Ludwigia…And that is definitely not the one I planted! Blinking

Appreciate your help! I tip my hat to you.
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Oct 3, 2013 10:29 AM CST
Passiflora leaves vary in color and shape considerably. Here are pictures of the leaf and flower of the P. foetida var. gossypifolia.

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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Oct 3, 2013 10:44 AM CST
Oooo, Very pretty! Green Grin!

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