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justB
Oct 10, 2013 5:51 PM CST
I was given a few of these earlier this year when in FL and planted them in northern IL. They did well and grew somewhat but stayed small throughout the summer. Can anyone help with the ID of this?
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Name: Drew
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homer1958
Oct 10, 2013 6:41 PM CST
Looks like an Alocasia odora. Dig up and bring in before first frost and place in as small a pot as the roots will fit in..Place in a Southern exposure window and water only when the soil about dries out and then only a little bit to keep around semi moist to dry. Place back out in fertile well draining soil when the temperatures at night are consistently in the upper 50's to around 60..No lower. When the weather starts getting really warm (Mid to upper 80's) you can water and feed freely... Feed around 20- 25% of what they tell you on a High Nitrogen, water soluble fertilizer at every watering.... THEY WILL GET HUGE!




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dyzzypyxxy
Oct 10, 2013 9:19 PM CST
With little guys like that, would you leave them all together in one pot, or separate them, Drew? There must be 8 or 9 plants in that little clump. That may be why they didn't get larger this summer.

I'd think before they grow into gigantic sails, you'd want to give 'em some room. Next spring? Plant each one a couple of feet apart at least?

I keep mine in pots, and I'd give each of those little pups a huge pot of its own.
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Swayback
Oct 10, 2013 9:37 PM CST
It's really hard to tell, but I think I see a big bulb hiding under those leaves, they look semi dormant already, I'm guess they wanted more feed and water in the warm season.
Do just as drew said, I would divide them until spring, not now.

They really want lots of heat, when they get that they wants lots of water and fertilizer!

I'm having trouble making out exactly what plant it is!
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Oct 11, 2013 3:06 PM CST
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homer1958
Oct 11, 2013 3:09 PM CST
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Name: Drew
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homer1958
Oct 11, 2013 3:11 PM CST
One pot is what I would do. As small a pot as all of them would fit in for over the Winter only.. You will be able to water more as you will have more roots in a small area. In the Spring definitely separate for going in the ground about 6-8' apart. the colder your zone you could bring them in a little closer as they will not have the time to get gigantic. I am in zone 7-B justB. When you dig it up, post a picture and let us check it out to see if you may need to cut it into two pieces.
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Name: Drew
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homer1958
Oct 11, 2013 3:15 PM CST
This is getting irritating... Wish it was as easy as Daves Garden!
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plantladylin
Oct 11, 2013 3:53 PM CST
homer1958 said:This is getting irritating... Wish it was as easy as Daves Garden!
There are glitches with the new format but Dave is working on it as fast as he can:




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eclayne
Oct 11, 2013 5:45 PM CST

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Doesn't that look like @justB scored a huge length of rhizome planted on it's side?
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homer1958
Oct 11, 2013 5:55 PM CST
I agree Thumbs up
plantladylin said:There are glitches with the new format but Dave is working on it as fast as he can:






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homer1958
Oct 11, 2013 5:57 PM CST
Not folllowing you Evan?
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eclayne
Oct 11, 2013 8:26 PM CST

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Aah, Never mind, I think I'm seeing things Drew. The way they're growing almost looks like a piece of rhizome "trunk" planted on it's side.
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Swayback
Oct 11, 2013 9:09 PM CST
eclayne said:Aah, Never mind, I think I'm seeing things Drew. The way they're growing almost looks like a piece of rhizome "trunk" planted on it's side.


Yea that's kinna what I was talkin about Evan, I swear I think I see a big bulb in there, spitting out pups, as if it was on its side to force pups, but I think it's just a big bulb planted to high, the pups took and it's ailing...I could be totally wrong!
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homer1958
Oct 12, 2013 7:00 AM CST
With justB saying; "I was given a few of these earlier this year", I'm thinking three tubers guys; with a lot of side shoots from the three.
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eclayne
Oct 12, 2013 8:08 AM CST

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Makes sense. @justB? For future reference would removing the pups promote a larger single "stem"? I don't grow A. odora but that's been my experience with others.
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homer1958
Oct 12, 2013 12:25 PM CST
eclayne said:Makes sense. @justB? For future reference would removing the pups promote a larger single "stem"? I don't grow A. odora but that's been my experience with others.


Yes sir! I agree Thumbs up
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homer1958
Oct 12, 2013 12:26 PM CST
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LariAnn
Oct 14, 2013 1:44 PM CST

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Sorry it took so long for me to reply to this one - the plants are small specimens of Alocasia gageana, closely allied to A. odora. While A. odora can get huge, A. gageana will stay more around 2 to 3 feet under good conditions. They do need to be dug up in Fall and kept from freezing as they are not hardy in IL.
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Name: Drew
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homer1958
Oct 14, 2013 2:51 PM CST
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LariAnn said:Sorry it took so long for me to reply to this one - the plants are small specimens of Alocasia gageana, closely allied to A. odora. While A. odora can get huge, A. gageana will stay more around 2 to 3 feet under good conditions. They do need to be dug up in Fall and kept from freezing as they are not hardy in IL.


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