Site Talk forum: Ideas feature questions

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Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Oct 18, 2013 12:18 PM CST
When editing an Idea and adding photos, is it normal for them not to be visible when "Viewing Your Changes"?

I can see the photo in the right-side-panel while editing, but not when I View the Idea.

BTW, is there any way to make the photo appear in-line with the text, where I choose?

Edited to say:

Now I see that one Idea offers to let me insert photos "normally". Maybe I started one of the Ideas so long ago that the forum SW has changed since then? I also seem to see that the white space between paragraphs is much larger in some Ideas than others.


Oddly, the "Return to the Ideas Management area" button doesn't always take me back! I'll blame my un-updated browser until I can repeat the behavior after a reboot.

Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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Newyorkrita
Oct 18, 2013 1:00 PM CST
I just open two tabs. One for the text and another to show the pictures so that I know what I want to move around.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Oct 18, 2013 4:07 PM CST
I don't think I understand. I have the ATP Idea edit window in one browser tab.
My photos are in a folder on my hard drive, visible in another window, but not a browser tab.

Are you moving pictures from one part of ATP (like the plant database) into the idea edit window (also part of ATP)?

This time I had more than just 1-2 photos, so first I planned which photos, and put them all in one folder dedicated to that article.
Then I cropped them.
Then I planned would put them in the text by doing all my editing in a Word doc.
Then I copied the text into the ATP edit box.
Then I tried to add photos.

In one Idea, the photos would only go into a right-hand panel, not interleaved with text.
And I could not see them in the text-edit panel when I "Viewed".

In another Idea, the text and photos interleaved the way I expect in a forum post.

I'll probably copy all of the "odd" Idea into a new Idea, and delete the old idea.
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Hummingbirder
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Newyorkrita
Oct 18, 2013 4:12 PM CST
I put the photos in. So they are uploaded but you don't see the actual pics, just the upload images. So I open another tab and view them that way.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Oct 18, 2013 4:19 PM CST
I think I understand. In the edit box, they are just text like
[ lightbox ABC-XYZ ...

Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Hummingbirder
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Newyorkrita
Oct 18, 2013 4:22 PM CST
Yup. And if you want to see the pictures and move them around in your articles, you need to open a second browsers and pull up whatever you are working on. By going back and forth it works out perfectly.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Oct 18, 2013 4:26 PM CST
I like the idea of a second instance of the browser, not just a second tab. Then I could one on each monitor and just keep refreshing the "View" side after saving changes on the "edit" side.
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Hummingbirder
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Newyorkrita
Oct 18, 2013 4:31 PM CST
Well, ok if that works better for you. Thumbs up
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Oct 18, 2013 6:41 PM CST
At work, I always like watching over someone's shoulder while they do something
"that I already know how to do".

"Whuzzat? Wha'd you just do?!?"

They always have a different way, and sometimes it's easier than my way.

Edited to add:

The reason one of my "Ideas" would only accept photos in the far-right photo panel was that it was an "advanced" article. I'm re-making it now as a "simple form" Idea.

I wonder what features I'm losing? I seem to be gaining the abilityto put photos where I wnat them, for example 3-accross.
[Last edited by RickCorey - Oct 18, 2013 6:47 PM (+)]
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Name: Trish
Jacksonville, TX (Zone 8a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Roses Herbs Vegetable Grower
Composter Canning and food preservation Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Organic Gardener Forum moderator Hummingbirder
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Trish
Oct 20, 2013 2:17 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

The advanced editor allows you easy access to the html codes at the click of a button. You have to manually add them in the simple form.

Keep in mind that I edit the layout on 99% of the ideas that come in- sometimes much to the chagrin of the author. The reason is the same reason why it is difficult to nail down all of the tweaks when making site updates. As opposed to print, where everything is static, in web publishing you could spend hours tweaking a layout perfect for your browser, only to have it look terrible in another one. Don't fret very much over it.
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Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Oct 21, 2013 10:43 AM CST
>> Keep in mind that I edit the layout on 99% of the ideas that come in-

Oh, good! The fact that (sometimes?) there seems to be a lot of white space after every linefeed causes me to try it several different wayss.

BTW, now I always edit my Ideas offline in MS Word, to get it 90% clean, and then copy-paste repeatedly into ATP to get the HTML codes and photos and linefeeds looking OK.

I'm glad you're cleaning them up further!

For example, I decided recently that I like the "color codes" for section headings. Dilbert pointed out that if you let engineers pick the color scheme, users may go blind from the color clashes!

And, if some of my photos are "just too lame", kick them back and I'll try again. B7ut I'm trying to get some seed drying Ideas posted while it is still seed season.
Name: Trish
Jacksonville, TX (Zone 8a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Roses Herbs Vegetable Grower
Composter Canning and food preservation Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Organic Gardener Forum moderator Hummingbirder
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Trish
Oct 21, 2013 11:20 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

You should be aware that I definitely edit out anything that isn't standard- colors, all caps, excessive bolding, etc. At the risk of offending anyone's creativity, I aim for the ideas to be simple and easy for anyone to read.

Occasionally I get a grumble about the excessive white space in the ideas. While it may be a bit "boring" at times, the articles and ideas can be viewed in any browser size without being wonky. IMHO, wonky is way worse than a boring layout Green Grin!


NGA COO, Wife, Mom, and caretaker of 90 acres and all that dwell there.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Vegetable Grower
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member
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RickCorey
Oct 21, 2013 3:38 PM CST
I have to agree with that.

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