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Nov 7, 2013 7:12 AM CST
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Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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Typo in title that I can't correct - it's Gonolobus suberosus


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Nov 7, 2013 11:34 AM CST
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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
Hi Everybody!! Let us talk native.
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That looks great Tee, have the Monarchs or Queens laid eggs on it? Smiling
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Nov 7, 2013 11:53 AM CST
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Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
I'm not sure, Jo. The vine has taken off into the back woods a bit and I can't see it back there too well (poison ivy in that area). I've had Monarchs and Queens so I hope they are enjoying it. They are enjoying something Smiling
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Nov 7, 2013 2:36 PM CST
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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
Hi Everybody!! Let us talk native.
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I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Birds Cat Lover
I check Wildflower.org and they have it listed as Matelea gonocarpos with Gonolobus suberosus as a synonym.
I wonder which of the names is the most current one?

http://wildflower.org/plants/r...

In any event it is native to Texas as well which makes me very happy.
It seem that with milkweed plants becoming more and more scarce the milkweed vines are going to play a more and more important role in the survival of the Monarchs and Queens.

I have Funastrum cynanchoides which has done very well for us but mine hasn't made seed yet, we shall see. Smiling
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Nov 7, 2013 4:15 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
I think the Plant Admins here use ITIS and then check elsewhere. It's current to 2011 so I don't know. I just go by what they seem to use here.

I agree about the milkweeds. They are becoming more and more crucial in the survival of some of the species.

Forgot the link:
http://www.itis.gov/servlet/Si...

http://www.itis.gov/servlet/Si...
I garden for the pollinators.
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Nov 7, 2013 4:38 PM CST
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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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So they are saying that Matelea is the old name and Gonolobus the new one.?
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Nov 7, 2013 5:25 PM CST
Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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ITIS shows Gonolobus suberosus as the accepted name. The Wildflower Center does not keep their plant names updated.
wildflowersoftexas.com



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Nov 7, 2013 10:50 PM CST
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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
Hi Everybody!! Let us talk native.
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I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Birds Cat Lover
Wow! that is surprising, I thought they were the ones to go to for native plants!!
USDA had the same name as the Wildflower Center.
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Nov 7, 2013 10:56 PM CST
Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Wildflower Center database is good for information about the plants, and their search features are great. But for correct names, both Wildflower Center and USDA are out of date. I use Itis for correct names and Biotia of North America for distribution and nativity information.
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Nov 8, 2013 7:32 AM CST
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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
Hi Everybody!! Let us talk native.
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Thank you Jay, it is sad that we have to go to a few different places to find all the needed information.
It seems to me that they should be able to afford to keep up with changes, they are big and i am sure have plenty of help. Smiling
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Nov 8, 2013 6:19 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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It's bound to be better than some plant books. One book, Wildflowers of the Texas Hill Country, which is the go-to guidebook for the Hill Country of Texas, was published in 1987, and reprints have come out periodically since that time. It has never been updated in any way whatsoever since that time.
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Nov 8, 2013 6:26 PM CST
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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
Hi Everybody!! Let us talk native.
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I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Birds Cat Lover
I really like the Wildflower Center site, but I guess they really need to catch up with the new names for plants.
Oh well Rolling my eyes.
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Nov 8, 2013 10:33 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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I'll bet a good software program with access to the right data could do it more or less automatically on an online site. This site seems to keep up pretty good...is it software or is it done the time-consuming hard way, I wonder?
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Nov 8, 2013 11:05 PM CST
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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
Hi Everybody!! Let us talk native.
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I have no idea Linda, but I suspect it is the hard way.
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Oct 15, 2017 9:49 AM CST
Name: Alice
Fort Worth (Zone 8a)
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Josephine are you still on here? I have a question, a member of the Garden forum on facebook has found some seed pods, she is going to be sending me some seeds. They are either Purple milkweed or Gonobous suberosus Can you ID?
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Oct 15, 2017 4:12 PM CST
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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
Hi Everybody!! Let us talk native.
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I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Birds Cat Lover
Sorry Alice, I have never grown or seen those, but they look promising. I hope they wok out. Smiling
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Oct 17, 2017 4:21 PM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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Gypsi said: a member of the Garden forum on facebook has found some seed pods
Can you ID?
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Not Gonobous suberosus

there's a number of matelea species around the country, we'd have better luck if you told us where this was found.
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Oct 31, 2017 4:54 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
I agree. It's not G. suberosus.
I garden for the pollinators.
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Nov 4, 2017 2:44 PM CST
Name: Mark Rose
Boone, NC (Zone 6a)
Hi SongofJoy, Any chance you are willing to share some of these Matelea gonocarpus seed? I would be interested in a few to grow, Mark
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Aug 19, 2018 10:19 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
Mark, I was gone for awhile. Did you get some of these seeds?
I garden for the pollinators.
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