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Dec 9, 2013 1:24 AM CST
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Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
Cactus and Succulents Region: Kentucky Moon Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Tropicals Plant Identifier
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Just thought I'd see if anyone else round here grows these little gems...

For anyone unfamiliar, give one a shot, you could hardly ask for a better houseplant for a bright spot!
Even surviving years with no direct light or water...survive, not thrive,mind you!
I'm in the process of IDing them, it's not a cake walk! So please, don't take my word in the names, I'm trying my best, any help would be just sweet!

Here's pics of a few that I had handy!

Bought as H. Emelyae v. Emelyae
I'm almost 100% certain it's really H. Pygmae, it's the only one that came IDed, and it's wrong...imagine that.
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Cats tongue!
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A droopy bloomer, I'm not used to them hangin so low...

H. Coartata?
He's a but etiolated down in that growth point...
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H. Attenuata cv 'wide zebra'?
This ones name seems to have some confusion surrounding it...
I found pics of what appeared to be this same plant with 4 different names on it, I believe

It's sure a beauty though!

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This one is really one of my fav's!
I hunted for it for a long time, before losing my collection, only to have it fall into my hands this year without even looking or asking, good stuff!
It came pretty roughed up, but I think you can see the clear difference in the lower growth, from before I got it, and the top, which is my growth, I'm very pleased, but I just hate that damn dark orange rust! It came with all that, but I see it on my other attenuata types too, ones I've had long enough that the blame is on me and my culture...

Any advice here? I'm sure it's culture.

Please join in, I love lookin at pics of these guys, it's such a great group of plants, so diverse, intricate, and intriguing!
My puny collection lacks much of this diversity... Crying but I'm working on it!
So...who else is growin?
Will you be showin?
More of mine to come!
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Dec 9, 2013 8:37 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
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I like these too, the part-shade succulents are so interesting. Anybody can bake a jade in the sun, but a Haw takes a little more finesse, protection.

Both NOIDs (Kalanchoe millotii on the right):

I think the one on the right may be the same as the above. A different NOID on the left.
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H. subfasciata - it has made a pup!
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H. retusa - blooms often, the blooms do need a stake to stand up straight, even outside in the wind.


If not for Haws, the east-end of my mini garden would be half full!
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Dec 9, 2013 11:32 AM CST
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Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
Cactus and Succulents Region: Kentucky Moon Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Tropicals Plant Identifier
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I love that big retusa!

I hope they make the winter for ya!
A miniature garden that too big to move... Rolling on the floor laughing

If I had to wager a guess, I'd say the first 2 noid are H. Coartata, assuming my ID of my coartata is right...
And the other is maybe H. Cuspidata, I think the second pic is in fact the same plant!

Thanks for sharing Tiffany!
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Dec 9, 2013 11:41 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Hi Tiffany, to me your 1st Haworthia photo looks like H limifolia (on the left) and H cymbiformis var. cymbiformis on the right.
I did surgery on my Haworthias , and was hesitant to share photos but decided "why not?" Shrug!
I've had most of these for 2 years.
I cut off the tops and planted them next to the rooted plant in hopes that it will stimulate base growth! These have only been growing up, and not filling in!
H glabrata
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H limifolia

Now for the non surgicalized ones! nodding
H cooperi with a bloom and more coming!

H retusa 'White Ghost'

H fasciata (zebra plant)

and finally a tiny one, its in a 3 inch pot, to give you and idea of how little!
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I have several more! I love these plants! Hurray! I tip my hat to you.
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Dec 10, 2013 10:03 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
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Sway, I know! Just didn't give it *honest* thought at planting time, and I don't know these plants. I just jumped in there like a mad woman & did that. I've been covering it with a sheet if it goes below 35 or so. Had about 28 so far, nothing mushy or brown. When it started to poke into the 40's at night sometimes, I quit watering the whole thing, it's under porch roof @ west end. There's a plastic storage tub of water under it but on a day like today with no sun, it doesn't get warmed well. I guess I'll have some reports about Haws outside for winter in this area. I've gone back'n'forth in my mind many times, and decided I don't want to tear it up trying to save plants that may or may not need saving. The whole thing would have to be redone whenever somebody digs around in there much which would mix the aquarium gravel on top with the 'soil' under it. In the spring I'll add more cuttings of whatever survived & go from there.

Greg, nice collection! The variegated one is wild. Please add pics of blooms when you see them, even if they aren't the most exciting of flowers.
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Dec 10, 2013 12:11 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Thanks Tiffany I will! I'm going this variegated one sends out pups also!
I noticed these plants seem less able to take a chill. So I'm very curious to see what happens with yours!
Cheers I tip my hat to you.
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Dec 10, 2013 12:21 PM CST
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Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
Cactus and Succulents Region: Kentucky Moon Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Tropicals Plant Identifier
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Thanks for sharing Greg, all our plants can't be stars of the show all the time!

Your technique may not ever make the "fill in" they just aren't that kinna plant, it will lead to lots of plants! Those stumps will sprout new heads, once they size up a bit, cut them off and root them too!

If you don't mind my asking, where's they come from?
Did they come with those ID's?

At the risk of being that guy...I gotta say I strongly question the ID of several your plants...

I don't get hung up on names much tho, either way, nice plants!

I def think Tiffany's plant there is coarctata, limafolia it is not! Limafolia will never grow much height, they just grow a very tight rosette of spiraling leaves, I can also see white spots on her plant, to my knowledge, the only limafolia form with any white tubercles is limafolia striata, which of course had horizontal bands on each leaf.

Tiffany-ouch 28?
You are no doubt pushing the envelope there!
Keep those babies bone dry!

If you gotta pull em out, you can literally do just that and pile em in a box, they will be fine.
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Dec 10, 2013 6:28 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Hi Sway, I got most of these from absolutely cactus... The one I don't know about for sure is the mini one - the owner of Absolutely cactus said she wasn't sure of the ID, but is pretty sure its a hybrid of H mirabilis. Its only in the past year or so that I care about names, so I am glad for any info!! Thumbs up
I tip my hat to you.

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Dec 10, 2013 6:36 PM CST
Name: David Paul
(Zone 9b)
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I'm really liking this thread Sway! Thumbs up I tip my hat to you.

Yours and everyones info and pictures are great, and love the Dino garden Tiffany. Reminds me of some of my stuff! Thumbs up Smiling

Keep up the good works!
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Dec 10, 2013 6:42 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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I agree David! Good info!! I tip my hat to you.
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Dec 10, 2013 7:12 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Sway and all...I feel like I was coming off defensively, I've edited my earlier post, but if anyone read it and felt uncomfortable, I apologize!
Sway, I did see what I'm remembering as H limifolia var. limifolia at my local conservatory, and it looks just like mine - but it is more upright, so I am going to go back and take photos as the conservatory, to double check the label! (my memory could be totally wrong - and whatever that plant is it is exactly what I have!)
I really would love any and all info regarding the names of the ones I have, because a couple of them I bought with only basic info - Haworthia
Thanks Sway and everyone!
Cheers
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Dec 10, 2013 7:41 PM CST
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Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
Cactus and Succulents Region: Kentucky Moon Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Tropicals Plant Identifier
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Well, I missed it, so no harm done to me, I have 0 interest in fussin about haworthia names, lol, it's pointless! I fight with myself enough trying to ID mine.
IDing from pics makes it that much harder!

On that note...

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IF any could ID this one...lol...I'd be pretty astounded...I've deceided it's a hybrid if that helps...

Greg, would you like to hear my guess at IDing the ones you posted?
Or should I not stir the pot? Shrug!
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Dec 10, 2013 7:47 PM CST
Thread OP
Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
Cactus and Succulents Region: Kentucky Moon Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Tropicals Plant Identifier
Garden Ideas: Level 2
DavidofDeLand said:I'm really liking this thread Sway! Thumbs up I tip my hat to you.

Yours and everyones info and pictures are great, and love the Dino garden Tiffany. Reminds me of some of my stuff! Thumbs up Smiling

Keep up the good works!


It's funny, I see the forum title, cactus and tender succulents, but darn it, I'm just not into jungle cacti that much, I have some, love a few, but man, I just LOVE woody lilies, I've decided this years plant collecting, 2014, with be dedicated to restoring my collection of them!
Haworthias, gasteria, agaves, sansevieria! Here I come, or rather they come, to me!
I just learned of furcrea this year, better get a few...oh and yuccas, yea I like the ones that trunk...manfreda and mangave too...oh dear this going downhill quick... nodding
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Dec 10, 2013 7:56 PM CST
Name: David Paul
(Zone 9b)
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I know the feeling and completely get what you say! Hilarious!
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Dec 11, 2013 12:46 AM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
Sempervivums Sedums Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Cactus and Succulents Container Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 1
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As of last year I decided I was going to go with "hardy succulents" only! Sempervivum and sedum that can take the cold...but well, I still have these guys and I don't want to get rid of them until I'm ready! It does make winter living in my apartment a bit crowded! nodding
Sway, yes please fire away what you think the plants are!! Hurray! I tip my hat to you.
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Dec 11, 2013 8:45 AM CST
Thread OP
Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
Cactus and Succulents Region: Kentucky Moon Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Tropicals Plant Identifier
Garden Ideas: Level 2
gg5 said:As of last year I decided I was going to go with "hardy succulents" only! Sempervivum and sedum that can take the cold...but well, I still have these guys and I don't want to get rid of them until I'm ready! It does make winter living in my apartment a bit crowded! nodding
Sway, yes please fire away what you think the plants are!! Hurray! I tip my hat to you.


Nice plan! Lol good luck enacting it!

I would get bored without havin too many plants to care for!

I bet you love it like I do! nodding
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Dec 11, 2013 9:00 AM CST
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Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
Cactus and Succulents Region: Kentucky Moon Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Tropicals Plant Identifier
Garden Ideas: Level 2
gg5 said:
H glabrata
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H limifolia

Now for the non surgicalized ones! nodding
H cooperi with a bloom and more coming!

H retusa 'White Ghost'

H fasciata (zebra plant)

and finally a tiny one, its in a 3 inch pot, to give you and idea of how little!
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I have several more! I love these plants! Hurray! I tip my hat to you.


I'd say the first one maybe right, after looking about the web, it seems there are glabrata forms very much like that one, I called it H. Tortuosa in my head when I saw it.

The limafolia is right, there several firms of it too!
Long thin leaves, short stout leaves, striated etc...your is kinna middle of the road.

The cooperi could be right too, it's splayed open look threw me off, but after lookin at your pic better, your prolly right, I'd give it more light, if you have more that is.

Grey ghost is most often listed as retusa, it's not, many authorities say it's turgida, while other say it's accuminata, I'm with them!

The zebra plant pic is confusing, the littler garner ones in from may be fasciata, the tall ones almost certainly attenuata.
Attenuata has tubercles on the top, or inside if the leaf, fasciata does not.

I also see that truncata hiding in that pic! I gotta get one!
What's the dark green one to the right in that pic? It looks like your glabrata but I think I see white spots too.

That last little guy is anyone's guess!
Mirabilis hybrid sounds good, reminds me of bristle king.
H. Herbacae also comes to mind, but who knows!

I'll take pics if a few more if mine today
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Dec 11, 2013 1:21 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
Sempervivums Sedums Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Cactus and Succulents Container Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Thanks Sway! You are right, the larger zebra plant in the backround is from a friend, I just placed it with the others, and didn't even look that closely at it until now Hilarious! I'm glad to have some of both types!! Hurray!
The only thing I want to correct you on is the one you called 'Grey Ghost' mine is 'White Ghost' and they are different plants!
I called mine a retusa solely based on the internet...it came from www.absolutelycactus.com which is a great place for cactus and succulents! (small family owned, organic, and conscientious about where they get their plants - most of them are seed grown by the owners themselves!) Anyway my plant was only labelled 'White Ghost' but then internet searches came up with retusa 'White Ghost' so thats what I've accepted it to be! I tip my hat to you.
I'd love to see more of your plants! I tip my hat to you.
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Dec 11, 2013 1:25 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
Region: United States of America Houseplants Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Garden Sages Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
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TY, David!
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Dec 11, 2013 5:04 PM CST
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Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
Cactus and Succulents Region: Kentucky Moon Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Tropicals Plant Identifier
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Hrm white ghost you say...

That's taller zebra is cool I like the columnar habit!
Maybe it's a hybrid with coarctata or reinwardii!
Sorry I didn't get the pics!
I had great light too darn it!

H, cuspidata?
Love the light comin through the retuse leaf tips!

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H. Retusa cv? I forget the cv name, it could be H.mutica but it's doubtful!

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