Crowd your Roses for a Jumble of Color

By Newyorkrita
February 3, 2014

Conventional wisdom advises plenty of space between rose bushes for best results. Instead I break the rules, plant very closely together, and benefit from a riot of color.

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Feb 2, 2014 6:15 PM CST
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Name: Arlene
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Wow, that really is a site to see. That's enough to almost get me to plant roses. The only reason I won't is because you have to spray and I am really trying to get away from that. I don't know any organic regimens for roses.
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Feb 2, 2014 6:25 PM CST
Name: Rita
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I do spray and fuss over my roses. But they are worth it as they are so pretty.
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Feb 2, 2014 6:37 PM CST
Name: Paul
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My roses are crowded as are my iris, hosta, etc. Low summer rainfall and low humidity make for little disease problems here. I do not spray Thumbs up
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Feb 2, 2014 6:39 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
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We have a lot of humidity here. I have to spray or I would have leafless sticks.
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Feb 2, 2014 6:46 PM CST
Name: Joanne
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Beautiful pictures!
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Feb 2, 2014 6:57 PM CST
Name: Rita
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Thanks Arlene and Joanne. And thanks for the acorns.
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Feb 2, 2014 7:28 PM CST
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Yeah, Paul, we have a lot of humidity down here too so that wouldn't work! But if anyone has any ideas how I could make it work, I'm all ears! I'm all ears!
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Feb 2, 2014 8:23 PM CST
Name: Cindi
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Arlene,
Roses can indeed be grown organically. Google "Earth Kind" roses and you'll find loads of information.
Our rose forum here has discussions on no-spray gardens, too.
The secret is selecting roses that are proven to be more disease resistant. More and more growers are working toward this.
NYRita--what a stunning florabundaville! Your colors are scrumptious!
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Feb 2, 2014 8:40 PM CST
Name: Rita
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Many roses are indeed much more disease resistant. For instance, I do love Clements roses. They are very disease resistant. If I had an entire garden of only Clements intros then I would only have to spay once a month or so.

Now there are roses that are disease magnets that I had to get rid of even with my spraying.
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Feb 2, 2014 8:56 PM CST
Name: Annette
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Rita,

I agree with Cindi, your Floribundaville is stunning. It's so lush and colorful! I've taken notes on your spraying regimen, and I'm going to try it this year. Thanks for sharing your beautiful blooms.

Annette
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Feb 2, 2014 9:10 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
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Thank you Cindi and Annette.
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Feb 2, 2014 9:47 PM CST
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@CindiKS I will check it out! I have a few roses here but they have been neglected. I just got a Westerland so maybe I shouldn't even bother planting it. I also have Zephirine Drouhin. I had that one in MD too and I love it. I got rid of most of my others. I also had Don Juan on trellis' by my front porch.
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Feb 2, 2014 9:55 PM CST
Name: Rita
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Oh, definitely plant the Westerland. That one is extremely disease resistant. It never needs spraying and it puts out the most beautiful flowers.
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Feb 3, 2014 9:59 AM CST
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I love your Floribundaville! What an amazing display!
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Feb 3, 2014 10:03 AM CST
Name: Cindi
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Arlene,
I grow both Westerland and Zephirine, and neither gets any spray or fertilizer! They are fabulous roses, but be warned, they get huge. I get scattered rebloom on Zephirine, but Westerland blooms constantly from spring till fall. Zephirine is usually known as a once-bloomer, and mine is on the east side of the house, so I don't know why it does so well for me. I planted it right by the front door because it is thornless and the scent is incredible. After the blooms finish the main flush, a clematis growing through it continues the show.
My Westerland faces south and is in front of a covered porch on our barn along with Jacob's Robe and Autumn Sunset, which is a sport of Westerland. All of them get huge, even though I never feed them. I think it is because they are near the well spigot, right under the porch dripline, and there is no root competition since they are planted in a gravel parking area. I will look for a photo. Westerland and Autumn Sunset grow to the roofline every summer. All 3 are pretty thorny.
Remember that children, marriages, and flower gardens reflect the kind of care they get.
H. Jackson Brown, Jr.
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Feb 3, 2014 11:15 AM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Thanks to everyone for the thumbs up and acorns!
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Feb 3, 2014 11:18 AM CST
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Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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That is great news! Yay! I have my Zephirine by my front door and last year I planted morning glories for after the roses were finished but I don't really like them. I think the clematis is a better idea. Mine is up against the garage on the west side of the house. I think I'll plant the Westerland at the back of the house, up against the foundation then. That is the south side of the house. Now I'm very excited! I can have roses again!!!
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