Agastache and Salvias forum: Need Help On ID

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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Feb 21, 2014 9:29 PM CST
I purchased this salvia by the name of Salvia azurea ssp picturii but i find nothing on line. Is it a typo? Is it pitcheri?
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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Feb 21, 2014 9:59 PM CST

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According to the Missouri Botanical Garden website: "Salvia azurea var. grandiflora (formerly known as Salvia azurea ssp. pitcheri or S. pitcheri)..."

http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFind...

Pitcher Sage is the common name for Salvia azurea.

These are the Salvia azurea varieties that are in the ATP database...

http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Salvia+azurea&but...

I have the 'Nekan' variety, but I don't know what the variety is in your second pic. Hopefully, @FBTS will chime in. He and his wife specialize in Salvias that they sell to the public. Wonderful place to buy their plants! Thumbs up

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Name: Danita
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Danita
Feb 21, 2014 10:01 PM CST
Hi Leslieray,

Salvia azurea subspecies picturi is a real plant (or at least a synonym for such) but the plant in your second photo is not a Salvia at all.

The plant appears to be Teucrium fruticans:



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Name: Lori
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growitall
Feb 21, 2014 10:52 PM CST
It's a Teucrium spp..

Edit: Oops, didn't see that it had already been ID'd.
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Name: Kermit Carter
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FBTS
Feb 22, 2014 10:58 AM CST
The identity and nomenclature of this species and its closely related neighbors is very much up in the air. These three:

Salvia azurea
Salvia reptans
Salvia pitcheri grandiflora

Are all very similar and more often than not confused in the general nursery trade. The various university resources and botanists are not in agreement with what the differences are between these, and what the names should be. Read enough journals and you will find all manner of naming confusion here. I avoid such debates at almost all cost!

Several named varieties of S. reptans are coming into the market. From what I have seen they are S. reptans, but of course could be hybrids as the range of all of these overlap.

Here is an article we wrote some time back discussing these: http://www.fbts.com/everything-salvias/salvias-down-south-to...

Hope this helps.



Name: Danita
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Danita
Feb 22, 2014 12:19 PM CST
@FBTS Thanks for the info on the nomenclature muddle.
However, do you agree that her actual plant in the second photo isn't a Salvia but rather Teucrium fruticans?
Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Feb 22, 2014 2:05 PM CST

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Danita,

You hit the nail on the head! The second pic looks like Sue's pic that you posted from the database.


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Kermit,

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Name: Kermit Carter
Elk, California (Zone 9a)
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FBTS
Feb 22, 2014 6:49 PM CST
Yes to the Teucrium question. Bingo.

Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Feb 25, 2014 7:52 PM CST
Wow! Now where did I plant that Salvia? My bad. Thanks everyone.
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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Feb 26, 2014 12:00 AM CST

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