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Feb 21, 2014 9:29 PM CST
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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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I purchased this salvia by the name of Salvia azurea ssp picturii but i find nothing on line. Is it a typo? Is it pitcheri?
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Feb 21, 2014 9:59 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
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According to the Missouri Botanical Garden website: "Salvia azurea var. grandiflora (formerly known as Salvia azurea ssp. pitcheri or S. pitcheri)..."

http://www.missouribotanicalga...

Pitcher Sage is the common name for Salvia azurea.

These are the Salvia azurea varieties that are in the ATP database...

http://garden.org/plants/searc...

I have the 'Nekan' variety, but I don't know what the variety is in your second pic. Hopefully, @FBTS will chime in. He and his wife specialize in Salvias that they sell to the public. Wonderful place to buy their plants! Thumbs up

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Feb 21, 2014 10:01 PM CST
Name: Danita
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Hi Leslieray,

Salvia azurea subspecies picturi is a real plant (or at least a synonym for such) but the plant in your second photo is not a Salvia at all.

The plant appears to be Teucrium fruticans:



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Feb 21, 2014 10:52 PM CST
Name: Lori
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It's a Teucrium spp..

Edit: Oops, didn't see that it had already been ID'd.
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Feb 22, 2014 10:58 AM CST
Name: Kermit Carter
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The identity and nomenclature of this species and its closely related neighbors is very much up in the air. These three:

Salvia azurea
Salvia reptans
Salvia pitcheri grandiflora

Are all very similar and more often than not confused in the general nursery trade. The various university resources and botanists are not in agreement with what the differences are between these, and what the names should be. Read enough journals and you will find all manner of naming confusion here. I avoid such debates at almost all cost!

Several named varieties of S. reptans are coming into the market. From what I have seen they are S. reptans, but of course could be hybrids as the range of all of these overlap.

Here is an article we wrote some time back discussing these: http://www.fbts.com/everything...

Hope this helps.
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Feb 22, 2014 12:19 PM CST
Name: Danita
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@FBTS Thanks for the info on the nomenclature muddle.
However, do you agree that her actual plant in the second photo isn't a Salvia but rather Teucrium fruticans?
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Feb 22, 2014 2:05 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
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Danita,

You hit the nail on the head! The second pic looks like Sue's pic that you posted from the database.


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Kermit,

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Feb 22, 2014 6:49 PM CST
Name: Kermit Carter
Elk, California (Zone 9a)
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Yes to the Teucrium question. Bingo.
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Feb 25, 2014 7:52 PM CST
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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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Wow! Now where did I plant that Salvia? My bad. Thanks everyone.
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Feb 26, 2014 12:00 AM CST
Name: Marilyn
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