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Feb 26, 2014 9:45 PM CST
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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How large do dentrobiums get, the standard size ones? I only have that one NOID, and the canes are about 4' tall now. I have to wire them to their hanger-wires to keep them erect. Is this the max? The plant is getting awfully heavy!
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Feb 27, 2014 8:32 AM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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Thinking of hard or soft cane Dendrobiums?
Nobile types - I have the white nobile which I just posted, I don't stake that at all. But, I find that those first grow straight up and then have a very good chance to kink/break as they get too heavy. So what I do, I attach a little weight to the tip of the canes, then they will gently dip down without the break when they reach that stage. ( Btw mine is growing without pot, I just attached that first piece to a piece of tree fern) Dendrobium anosmum is grown many times similarly since the canes can get really long and then there is Ricardo who mounted them upside down.
http://ricardogupi.blogspot.co...

Here he talks about the in a soda bottle upside-down culture.
http://ricardogupi.blogspot.co...

You have to dig around a bit on his site, there is a huge amount of information in those pages, including comments.

I can't answer your question precisely, but I have seen some monster plants with really long canes.
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Feb 27, 2014 9:25 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I only have the one dendrobium, and that was a "dead" plant given to me perhaps 6-8 years ago by one of my patients. It is a NOID. This plant has been in a sphagnum moss lined, 14" diameter wire basket for at least 5 years. Whatever Douglas fir bark mix that it was potted in is probably long gone. The sphagnum moss is still there though.

I did not know there were hard and soft cane den. I will have to research this some and learn more about them.

I guess I will just leave the plant as-is, and keep supporting the tall canes with plastic-coated wire, tied to its wire hanger. This plant was in constant bloom for almost six months last spring-summer. It just kept putting out stems. It is blooming earlier this year for some reason.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Feb 27, 2014 9:34 AM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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Can't argue with success! Thumbs up
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Feb 27, 2014 4:10 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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My Den. spectabile, which just took the blue ribbon at the recent orchid show here, is a hard cane type and needs to be tied or staked when in bloom. Those canes will snap in a heartbeat, especially if you load them in a car to drag to a show. I like to grow them in hanging plastic baskets and I tie the canes to the basket hanging wires. In fact, it is back in the truck as it will be a display orchid at the Tampa Bay Orchid Society show and sale this weekend. Are you coming up, Elaine?

And yes, they get huge. 3 to 4 foot canes are not unusual. I have 4 or 5 like that and I hang them all in the plastic baskets from the roof of the OC. They like lots of light.

Jim
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Feb 27, 2014 6:02 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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Ken, Researching Dens is frustrating, to say the least. I've found this site very helpful for figuring out what type you have and how to care for them. It's a large family with plants that range from minis to monsters and even the growers seldom tell you which type you're buying. http://staugorchidsociety.org/...
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Feb 27, 2014 6:35 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Thanks for the link, Carol.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Feb 27, 2014 7:36 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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Yes, the Dens are a puzzle, Ken. I have no idea how big most of mine will get, except of course the start Jim gave me of his big Nobile will be huge some day, if I can keep it alive.

Hmm, I may have to make the trip up to the show in Tampa. Although I really blew the budget at the Venice show buying Frances Fox, my birthday is coming up . . . uh, oh, DH already bought me a GoPro camera for the regatta week before last, so he may be off the hook.
Elaine

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Feb 27, 2014 8:26 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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Good link Carol! I added it to the sticky great info thread on top of the forum.
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Feb 27, 2014 8:58 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
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It was given to me when I was asking questions, and I'm just passing it on. I hope the person that gave it to me doesn't mind.
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