Daylilies forum: Your Daylily that is Latest to Begin Blooming?

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Name: Tina
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chalyse
Mar 3, 2014 11:14 AM CST
On another thread there is discussion about blooming time and order, with interest in learning what cultivars begin their first blooms the very latest regardless of what the registered "season" might be. That is, the last to begin blooming with an FFO/first-bloom, not re-blooms or final blooms of a cultivar that started to bloom at any earlier point in people's gardens.

Though many things can impact the time when a cultivar first begins its summer bloom, such as temperature, water, nutrients, winter-over conditions the previous season, fan maturity, etc. we would like to learn what cultivars tend to begin their first blooms the very latest in your individual garden and zone.

There are thousands of daylilies listed from EE to L (and any of those may be the last to bloom in your garden) ... but there are also comparatively few rare ones listed as very-late (VL). Again, those may not actually be the ones to begin their first FFO blooms as the very last to show up in your garden.

If your growing season doesn't show up in your avatar information, please indicate what zone your garden is in (http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/), and if it is known, show what date the cultivar's FFO appeared.

These are my two last FFO's from 2013 for which I am certain they were not reblooms, with their FFO date and their registered season:

Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Sings the Blues') FFO 2013: 6/30 (ML)
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Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Lullaby Baby') FFO 2013: 7/2 (EM)
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1) The last cultivar/s to bloom with:
2) First Flower to Open (FFO) that is from:
3) First Scape in a Clump that is:
4) Not a Rebloom Scape
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Name: Betty
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daylilydreams
Mar 3, 2014 11:23 AM CST
Here is a thread on late bloomers from a previous discussion.
The thread "Show Us Your Latest Blooming Daylilies Please" in Daylilies forum
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Name: Mike
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Mar 4, 2014 9:23 AM CST
Tina, because of your very hot summer temps you should try and put some more of your daylilies in part shade to help protect them and hopefully get some rebloom. One of Pat Stamile latest is Last Snowflake. You could try that one. Got this one in the fall of 2012.
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Name: Mike
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Mar 4, 2014 9:53 AM CST
Here is a list of some of my lates that I will be reporting on.
After Awhile Crocodile - L
Autumn King - VL
August Flame - VL
Blast From The Past - VL
Bermuda Coral - VL
Catherine Neal - VL
Cayenne - VL
Genesta - VL
One last Pie - VL
Lime Frost - VL
Last Snowflake - VL
Red Hill - L
Sandra Elizabeth - VL
Bridgeton Ivy League - L
Classic Rose - L
El Desperado - L
Final Touch - L
Humble Heart - L
Mama's Cherry Pie - L
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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Mar 4, 2014 9:58 AM CST
Hazelcrestmikeb,
Any suggestions on which daylilies do well in the shade? I have searched for a list of daylilies that do good in shade, but I have never found many. I do have a few noids, that rebloom in the shade, but the blooms are so thin and fragile looking.
Name: Mike
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Mar 4, 2014 10:39 AM CST
Seedfork, I only suggested that to Tina due to her severe temp and typical drought condition in her zone. Don't have a list. All of mine is in mostly full sun. Some get the afternoon sun on the west side of the house. Personally, I like to stick with shade plants in the shade. Daylily will bloom in the shade for the most part but, their output would be undesireable as in your case. I have one clump of the american daylily on the northside of the house that does well. Not recommended due to how the roots run and spread, unless you have an area for them to roam free. I can definitely send you some of those if you sooooo desire. Rolling my eyes.
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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Mar 4, 2014 11:37 AM CST
Hazelcrestmikeb,
Just what is "the American daylily"?
Name: Tina
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chalyse
Mar 4, 2014 12:50 PM CST
Ooo, I already see a handful that will go on my wish list, thanks Mike! I do find that the fans I have growing in dappled shade do not get the dreaded summer dormancy, though you are right that they do bloom less. It is a tricky balance between shrinking-dormancy under full sun, less blooming but better roots and fans in the dappled shade, and a few tiny "just right" areas in the garden. Thumbs up

After Awhile Crocodile is listed as both a dormant and semi-evergreen (hybridizer says semi) which I take to mean that it might perform like a dormant in the north, and a semi in the south? Is it dormant for you?

I think I will seriously be trying to focus on later cultivars this year and next to see how far I can extend the growing season!
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Name: Kim W
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kimkats
Mar 4, 2014 7:37 PM CST
The latest to start blooming in my garden in roughly the order rhey bloom are:
Final Touch L
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Hello Helen VL
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Last Man Standing L
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Sellstation Carnival VL
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Sellstation Friendship VL
Red Thunder L
Susan Weber L
Sandra Elizabeth VL







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Seedfork
Mar 4, 2014 7:53 PM CST
kimcats,
Wow, yours look like they bloomed pretty much right on schedule, I was not expecting that, they all fall petty much in their registered season.
Name: Kim W
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kimkats
Mar 4, 2014 8:39 PM CST
Oh, not all of them have. I have some that are way off. I have Em's that bloom M, M's that bloom E and everything in between. I just remember these Lates so well, because I am trying to add more. Part of it too is a lot of my L/Vl are Dale Thomas intro's. He hybridized about 20 mins from my garden. So, the growing season is really close to what they would have had in his garden. Unfortunately he had already retired by the time I found that out. I found hands down the latest to start here is Sandra Elizabeth. I spread pollen all over her and plan to spread her pollen this year on my M/ML bloomers. I froze her pollen so we shall see.
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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Mar 4, 2014 8:44 PM CST
kimkats,
Ok, that explains a lot. Sometimes just a little extra info can make things so much easier to understand. Thanks!
Name: Larry
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LarryW
Mar 4, 2014 9:36 PM CST
Last year in eastern Georgia (Augusta area - - always very hot summers with high humidity) we had an unusually cool, wet spring and everything bloomed later than what had been typical in previous years. The very first bloom last year came on May 20 (other years FFO was late April), and I had five cultivars with their FFO that day - - 1 early, 3 early-mid-season, and 1 mid-season. It seems that the ones that bloom first change from season-to-season, but the one that had its FFO last has been consistent the last three years - - it is Ruffled Strawberry Parfait and is listed as a late. Its first bloom for 2013 came on June 24. Interestingly enough, only three days earlier (June 21) was the FFO for Spacecoast Plentiful Bounty and the following day was the FFO for Silver Moon Sparkle, both of which are listed as early-mid-season. RSP is the only late I have, but I do have six mid-lates. Here they are with their FFO date for last year: White Base (5/28); Swimming with Sharks (6/2); Venus Flytrap (6-3, it is also evergreen for me although it was registered as a dormant); Cast Your Crown (6/4); Rosy Spiketail (6/8); and Heavenly Pink Fang (6/22). Yes, there are a variety of sun/shade times for different places in my garden, but Ruffled Strawberry Parfait got as much sun as anywhere. Spc Plentiful Bounty got a lot more shade, but Silver Moon Sparkle might have only gotten an hour of sun a day less than RSP, and Rosy Spiketail was only six feet away from RSP.
Name: Tina
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chalyse
Mar 4, 2014 10:27 PM CST
I really appreciate seeing these cultivars, and learning about their habits and growing conditions, including their exposure to sun (I also have a range, from blast furnace to tree-covered, so any extra info is always great). I'm already adding to my list, and so happy to learn that VF stayed evergreen in 8a! Thumbs up Thanks, Larry and Kim!
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Name: Mike
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Mar 5, 2014 7:28 AM CST
Tina, I got After Awhile Crocodile last summer from "morning_star" on the LA. I will be able to comment more later in the season in this regards.
Seedfork, the american daylily is a fancy name for the "Ditch Lily". Just google it for pics. I am 100% sure that you have seen it. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Kim, you have a nice group of L-VL. Love Last Man Standing.
Larry, I got Venus Fly Trap last year and it rebloomed.
Venus Fly Trap


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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Mar 5, 2014 10:13 AM CST
Hazelcrestmikeb,
I already have a fine collection of American daylilies! Hilarious!
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shive1
Mar 5, 2014 12:48 PM CST
I love Last Snowflake, but it always blooms midseason here. I've heard the same from others.

My two latest bloomers I got from Woodhenge Gardens. They are

LAST CHANCE FOR ROMANCE started blooming July 29 last year.
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BLAST FROM THE PAST started blooming Aug. 15 last year.
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Name: Mike
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Mar 6, 2014 7:46 AM CST
Seedfork, ha ha !!!
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Name: Tina
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chalyse
Mar 11, 2014 8:37 PM CST
@seedfork ... i was searching for something else on the internet related to daylilies and stumbled upon a 1998 list of daylilies that do well in the shade!

http://www.hort.net/lists/shadegardens/aug98/msg00026.html

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the list, there are additional links to follow-up posts that add some more cultivar names (Next by thread: Re: [SG] Shade Tolerant Daylilies).
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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Mar 11, 2014 8:47 PM CST
chalyse
I just wonder how many more could be added to that list after all these years. I doubt many hybridizers are creating shade tolerant daylilies. Thanks for the list.

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