Plant ID forum: Have several of this volunteering and seem to be getting more

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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Mar 17, 2014 4:55 PM CST
Not sure if this is actually a volunteer flower, I think it is, or a weed. I have very few weeds that grow in this bed, but can't rule it out. Before I pull the plant, I would like an ID, please. Anyone know this plant?
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I went out to dig some of these up to plant in the sun...then I recognized them instantly. I don't know the name but I now know where they came from. I dug some daylilies from my Mom's after she passed away these things had engulfed the entire bed. I went over to the house and took some pictures just to show how invasive they are, and I just cleared this bed this past fall. I washed and cleaned the daylilies very good trying to avoid this and the rattlesnake weed in that bed, but still must have missed a little piece. The roots are thread like, and they are runners and when you try to pull the plants they just break off, almost impossible to get all of it. An absolutely terrible plant to try and control. I have never noticed any kind of bloom on them.






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Name: Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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growitall
Mar 17, 2014 6:24 PM CST
Stylophorum diphyllum? (I know from your posting of this photo at another ID site that you don't think so, but the leaves match very well and it is a native plant in your area. Smiling )
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Mar 17, 2014 6:58 PM CST
Well, I have never seen any of these in my area, but there could be a field full of them next door and I might not notice. What little info I find on Stylophorum diphyllum mentions it growing in north Alabama, and I am in south east Alabama. I have gotten no other suggestions, and it is suppose to bloom in spring, so I guess I will wait and see. I'll post back if it develops blooms and post a picture. Thanks! Think I'll just call it a poppywort, sort of like the sound of that.
Name: woofie
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woofie
Mar 17, 2014 7:31 PM CST
Looks a little bit like feverfew (Tanacetum parthenium)
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Mar 17, 2014 8:00 PM CST
I do believe I planted Feverfew at one time, don't ever recall it blooming. It could be as far as I can tell, if it has white blooms...feverfew. If it has yellow blooms... poppywort? What ever it is, it is in a shady location so I think I will also move some of it to a sunnier location tomorrow and give it a better chance to bloom.
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Mar 17, 2014 9:07 PM CST
For comparison, there are a number of photo's for Celandine Poppy (Stylophorum diphyllum) in the database.
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Mar 17, 2014 11:36 PM CST
That certainly does look very similar, Lin. Just going to have to wait for blooms to narrow it down!
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Mar 18, 2014 11:49 AM CST
Please take another look!
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Mar 18, 2014 3:27 PM CST
Now there is a new prospective on things.....
I've never known Stylophorum to spread so voraciously via rhizomes, although they might take over from seed.
Stylophorum has yellow to orange sap.

In light of the "take over", I would say an artemisia.
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Mar 18, 2014 4:42 PM CST
Got a reply form the county agent she said it is... Artemisia vulgaris L.). Thanks for all the replies. I hope this plant never finds it's way into your yards, it is just awful.
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Mar 18, 2014 5:35 PM CST
Glad you got an ID : Mugwort (Artemisia vulgaris)
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DavidofDeLand
Mar 18, 2014 5:43 PM CST
It would be great it it had been a great big ole' patch of Flat Leaf or Italian Parsley, which it also looks similar to at this early stage. I tip my hat to you.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Mar 18, 2014 5:59 PM CST
Well, I thought I had it ID correctly, now there are questions about it, to be continued.....
I have sent the county agent another e-mail requesting a second opinion.
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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woofie
Mar 18, 2014 6:30 PM CST
Isn't Artemisa fragrant when you crush the leaves? I had an Artemisa absinthium show up in my yard and just loved the scent of it. Heh, so did the dog, which was how I found the plant (just one). He was rolling in it. Hilarious!
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Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Mar 18, 2014 6:55 PM CST
LOL, Woofie!
I had Artemisia arborea for many years. The "fragrance" wasn't offensive to me, but it sure was to almost every human visitor I had! No need to bruise or crush these leaves.
I finally replaced it with something else. From people's comments, I am sure it was one of the things permanently imprinted in their minds (and nostrils) about my gardens.

I would expect all artemisia species to have some fragrance, but most not as smelly as mine. (Thank goodness!)
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Mar 18, 2014 7:13 PM CST
I have noticed no scent on these plants.
Name: Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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growitall
Mar 18, 2014 7:50 PM CST
Okay, trying again then... Hydrophyllum virginianum? (Note that it doesn't always have the white leaf markings.)
http://www.google.ca/search?q=hydrophyllum+virginianum&clien...
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
Region: Alabama Composter Garden Photography Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Seedfork
Mar 18, 2014 7:55 PM CST
No, definitely not it. Thanks for trying though! Smiling
Name: Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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growitall
Mar 18, 2014 8:03 PM CST
How about breaking a stem off at ground level and photographing it and posting it here?
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
Region: Alabama Composter Garden Photography Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Seedfork
Mar 18, 2014 8:09 PM CST
I have a picture up above of the entire plant, top to bottom, (plant with the roots). What I should have done is put something next to it to show the size I think. I think it is much smaller that people are assuming. I will try again tomorrow, with a quarter next to the plant.

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