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Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
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jojoe
Apr 14, 2014 9:33 AM CST
I was given this plant by my 2 year old granddaughter and now that i have gotten it I.D.ed i need help with what to do with it. Whistling

I read that if it's put in to much sun the leaves will move to one side of the plant away from the sun.This can cause leaves to drop or become side heavy.I believe this or something like this has happened, it is leaning to one side & is leaf bare on one side.Most pictures of this plant show it as a compact plant.Mine has gotten a little leggy which may also be why it's leaning.I need to repot it,can i pot it a little deeper to help hold it up? I can use something small to prop it up.
What should it be planted in and how much water does it like?

I am sorry for all the questions but i haven't found much more than basic info on the plant nothing about how to care/grow this plant. Confused Shrug!

I really don't want to loose it or i will have to go buy a replacement so Lily (my GD) won't know i killed it.

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1 leaf has propagated in the pot, i will put it in something smaller & see what happens. Lovey dubby
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SongofJoy
Apr 14, 2014 9:35 AM CST
Here's a bit of info. http://www.smgrowers.com/products/plants/plantdisplay.asp?pl...
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Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
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jojoe
Apr 14, 2014 11:04 AM CST
Thank You!

Tee, i don't believe we have "met" i have been a member for a while but have a hard time getting on the forum as often as i use to and would like to.Thanks for the help and attention you have given to me & my questions.
Please look at my plant list and if i can help you in anyway i will do my best.

Hopefully i am going to be able to get on the forum more often.

Have a wonderful day!! Thumbs up
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Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
Thomson,Ga. (Zone 8a)
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jojoe
Apr 14, 2014 11:13 AM CST
I looked at the link and every little bit helps understand the plant and gives a little information that the other's didn't.Like most of the other links i've come across it isn't giving a lot of information on actually growing & caring for it.If anyone runs across anything with information about soil,water,feeding,sun etc... needs please share these as well.

Thank You!
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Name: Bev
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webesemps
Apr 14, 2014 11:50 AM CST
Jo, I have one of these and it pretty much looks like yours, a little elongated and not as compact as you would like it to be. I have it in cactus soil in a pot. Sits mostly in shade though I think it could take a little of morning sun which may help with keeping it more compact. I have it planted with 5 other plants. The pot it is in with haworthias and gasteria dictates more of the pot being in shade and so the watering is a deep one but only once every two weeks. I think a deep watering and letting it dry out before next would be a good rule of thumb. Let it have some light whether it be bright window or protected outdoor light. I definitely think to have optimal shape it should not just sit entirely in shade.
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tarev
Apr 14, 2014 12:38 PM CST
I also have this plant and so far, in our area, it has responded well being grown in shade. Initially it gets some afternoon sun, but I have now moved it to an area where it can get some morning sun and some late afternoon sun, since it is grown in a container with other succulents that would like some more sun.

During the warmer months, I give it deep watering every two weeks, and I grow this one outdoors like most of my succulents but in shade, to give these plants some bearing to handle our dry heat come summer time. Last winter, its first time, I just have the container outdoors too but near our house, and just had Mother Nature water it. We have been in drought conditions for the past few months, with the brief rains that came by in early Spring. So far it did not bother these plants. My thinking is some succulents like this one, slow down in growth when it gets cold, but as long as kept dry, they survive. But as soon as our drier and warmer weather returns, then the once to every two weeks deep watering works for them.

So far too, I have never given fertlizers to my succulents, and they survive well. What I often overlook is their temperature requirement. But for this particular plant, at least in my area, it survives outdoors in shade. warm or cold weather. Do not water it too much, I have observed sometimes in succulents, too much water and growing in shade makes them grow either leggy or worst gets mushy and dies.

Photos of my plant:

Last May 2013, repotted in this blue container, at the upper right side:
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As of April 14, 2014
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Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
Thomson,Ga. (Zone 8a)
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jojoe
Apr 14, 2014 12:48 PM CST
There is a little bit of room at the bottom without leaves, would it be okay or not to maybe plant it a little bit deeper.I thought maybe that would help it stand up on it's own some.Is it a slow grower,how fast should the leaves grow back that it's missing down the one side.
There are 3 leaves on this side in the photo,the one on the top has fallen off.
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I have seen these for sale & almost bought 1 about 2 weeks ago for myself.It was shorter & very compact almost looked like the leaves were coming out of the soil.I don't think my chances of accomplishing that are very good.I do hope to make it look some better.

I would love to see a photo of the pot you have fixed with this plant in it. Lovey dubby Smiling
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Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
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jojoe
Apr 14, 2014 12:57 PM CST
Any advice on how to get it more compact.

Tarev, we cross posted and thanks for the photos.In the 2nd photo did you put a 2nd plant or does it multiply/split,grow new limb's??
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Name: tarev
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tarev
Apr 14, 2014 1:23 PM CST
That is just one plant, it grew the other limb during the past year.
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tarev
Apr 14, 2014 1:40 PM CST
The container I have this plant in is only 3 inches deep, but wider, and other roots are helping themselves in the moisture therein. I try no to plant my succulents too deep, they have such shallow root systems, and I need the root zone to drain faster. Too deep makes it longer to dry out and you might end up with rotten roots.

Maybe try to keep it dry for about a week, and see if the leaves go back to having crinkly edges. Right now it looks like the leaves of your plant is too water bloated or consider amending your soil with more pumice or perlite, to keep it airy and open and water drains faster.

Similar thing happened to my Echeveria Paul Bunyan..grown way too shady and got a lot more water than it should, so it grew leggy and lost its rough edges:
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So have reduced the watering, and gave it more light..so it regained its usual carunculated leaf form. Though this particular succulent can really take direct sunlight.
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But for the Adromischus cristatus, just more bright light, not too much direct sun.

Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
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jojoe
Apr 15, 2014 6:49 AM CST
This little plant was picked up while my daughter & GD were at a flea market.My GD seen the plants and had to get me one my daughter said.It was on a table with lots of other succulents in little pots.My daughter picked up Lily (GD) & said pick out one plant your mom mom doesn't already have and she did good.My daughter said it was just an older couple selling them with hand written tags on some, unfortunately not on mine.It was very dry when i got it & had been sitting on a table in the sun all day.

I watered it a little that evening & it needs re-potting.How big a pot should i put it in? i know shallow,i have taken that advice and plant my succulents shallow.They will rot if planted to deep and it happens to rain just a bit to much.
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Name: tarev
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tarev
Apr 15, 2014 9:59 AM CST
You can just use a size bigger pot, and as always shallow, just make sure your media is very well draining too.

Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
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jojoe
Apr 17, 2014 6:06 AM CST
This may not be the right place to ask this question but i think you Tarev are a good person to ask this question to.
I have been getting ready to add on to my rock garden and also need to mix more potting medium to re-pot succulents. I have had a hard time with getting the correct size grit or sand.If i go to my local feed store and ask for turkey grit is that big enough? Last night i seen a bag of broken oyster shells/oyster grit.I couldn't see the pieces but through the bag the pieces felt big,would that work as well.Is there anything about oyster shells good for succulents?

I am going to post this question on the cactus/succulent forum in a new thread but wanted to be sure you read it to get your opinion.I believe you buy all kinds of things form specialty stores.I just don't have them type of stores any where out here in the boonies i call home.
Thank You!
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tarev
Apr 17, 2014 8:58 AM CST
Hi Jojoe, to be honest I do not use oyster shells a lot with my succulents, with the exception of one baby Crassula ovata Gollum and some sedum rubrotinctum container where I used a half shelf as support and decor. So far I have not seen any adverse effect.

I think I have read in our semp threads here that they use grit in their mix, so they may be able to answer your question much better. Smiling

For what its worth, here is my Crassula ovata 'Gollum' and Sedum rubrotinctum container, I do not have definite percentage of how much I mix stuff, I just eyeball it and feel the soil Shrug!

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Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
Thomson,Ga. (Zone 8a)
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jojoe
Apr 19, 2014 7:41 AM CST
Thank You! I have to find something the right size to add to my succulent beds etc... I've heard grit as well, chicken grit is the size of sand it's to small. Is turkey grit the biggest, I need something like ostrich grit. Confused Whistling
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Dutchlady1
Apr 19, 2014 8:17 AM CST
Hilarious! Ostrich Grit - someone should come up with that. Maybe it's already available as 'River Rock' Hilarious!
Name: Bev
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webesemps
Apr 19, 2014 12:56 PM CST
Jo, I have read that chx grit comes in a couple of sizes but if what is nearby only offers one size, then I think you are stuck unless they are willing to special order the size you want for you. Also, if the chx grit is size of sand but comparable to a big sand (as opposed to play sand) then maybe you could use it to mix into the soil and at the same time look for the larger granules for the top dressing to help with rot?
Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
Thomson,Ga. (Zone 8a)
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jojoe
Apr 21, 2014 5:15 AM CST
I found this site and now i have something to compare size of sand,grit whatever.

http://repotme.com/garden-center/potting-medium/index.html

I'm not sure but i know if you get it on-line you pay more but may be worth doing it once just to have a sample of what i need. I am going to try to talk to the business that the hubby gets his pea gravel from. Hoping they will sale it to me maybe by the pound instead of truck load,i believe they do weigh the truck before & after just like the going to the dump (we don't have trash pick-up,we go to the dump) .I live in a little town and it's not always a good thing but a fact of life in small towns mentioning family name,business owners name hubby works for will get you favors. *Blush*

Why am i having such a problem with this when everyone else simply uses grit,sand etc...
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Apr 21, 2014 10:53 AM CST
At my local Home Depot, I found a Key Lime Pie and remembered this post. It was only $3.69 and would have never bought it except for this post. Thanks
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Apr 21, 2014 11:02 AM CST
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